Remington Pre-Fit Barrels

[Northlander]

tang419,
The actual contour does not make any difference in the final pricing. The finished length of the barrel will determine the actual cost. At present these Rem-Age Barrels are priced the same as the Savage Pre-Fit Barrels that I offer. Here is a link to those barrels - http://savageshooters.com/SavageForum/index.php/topic,14194.0.html .

Any additional questions, just ask.

Jim Briggs
NSS

[kbb468]

Hi Jim,

Will the addition of the barrel nut weaken this combination significantly due to the removal of material to accommodate the barrel nut? For years I have heard and seen on numerous web site that it is not recommended to chamber some high pressure rounds using the savage action. Will the addition of a barrel nut on a Remington action present the same problems? As an example there are gun smiths out there who will not chamber the 338 edge in a savage but they will in a Remington action.

Also savage doesn't chamber the WSM calibers in the standard shank barrels but they do in the larger shank barrels because of the added thickness. In the case of the Rem-age barrels the thickness is being reduce if I understand correctly and the Remington 700 came in some very high pressure calibers.

What are your thoughts on this?

Great idea, just curious of the limitations.

[Hammer]

Have never used a barrel nut on anything larger than 50 caliber.

Have never had a failure of a barrel associated with a nut.

.

[358Hammer]

Jim

I hope you do not mind if I Jump in on this one: 
Savage is the only company marketing a large shank Savage so Savage has a nutted 1.055 shank and a nutted 1.120 large shank.  Not only does the nut not weaken the action. It adds another another margin of safety as the picture depicts below.  Now understand that while the industry minus Savage is chambering 300 RUM'S and 300WSM'S in their 1.050 barrels and I am un-aware of legal claims.  Savage is chambering the cases in the large shank.

The first picture below is a 460 Weatherby case blown out to 510 caliber.  Currently I am shooting 650 grain bullets at 2300fps from my 17" handgun barrel.  Note the nut is the same size as the action or 1.340.



Here is a picture of some cartridge comparisons of the 510 Rogue and I have shot this lots since being built in February. The cartridge on the right as I recall is the 338 Win Mag for comparison.



The following picture is of a 338WSM that I am shooting in a small shank Striker platform.  This is an ultra-light concept weighing in at 6.7 pounds.  Looking just like this and built on a large shank Striker will be the ominous 338 Edge cartridge shortly. It is projected to be 6oz heavier than pictured. Again we add to the safety factor by using a Chrom-moly barrel which is stronger than stainless.



I currently am selling a 338 X378 Weatherby on a Savage Action as the Weatherby in a handgun length barrel is just too much waste of gunpowder.  The Edge will do it all and burn less powder.  Pressure is pressure and Savage has got what I need for margins of safety.

Note: Savage did chamber the WSM case for a period of time in the smaller shank rifles.  Then without any legal reason chose to make a larger shank to hold the WSM and the RUM cartridges. Gotta like that margin of error concept!

Neal

[Northlander]

kbb468,
The Remington Actions that come in those high pressure loads all have the same 1.060 threaded shank barrels that screws into the action. The Remington receivers that I was able to measure are 1.360 in diameter where the barrel screws in. The Savage Small Shank Actions all have the same 1.060 diameter barrel shanks dimension. The Savage Actions that I measured were 1.350 +/- .005 depending on how much they were hand polished at the factory prior to shipment. I do not see where Remington Actions have any real advantage in handling pressure.

One additional point, I am offering these Rem-Age Barrels in the Calibers that I choose. If there are any concerns about safety I will not be offering that caliber in a Rem-Age Barrel. The concept of the Switch Barrel Remington Rem-Age Barrels is to offer the more popular caliber barrels for a quick retro fit to your Remington Actions, turn your 308 Win into a 6 BR Norma for the 11 months that it normally just sits in the safe. Believe me, we are giving some serious consideration to the calibers that we will be offering.

Jim Briggs
NSS

[johnsopa]

Here is what a Remington looks like with a barrel nut.
This is a nut from Pac-nor on a remington 700. for my Remington 243, 30-06, 7mm mag
I have 12 different caliber barrels to switch on them now/

Wow!  That looks alot like my gun.  Wait...  Hmm...  That is mine!

http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Main=72442&Number=783334

I'm still waiting for my royalty check (or, at least some free barrels!) from Jim and McGowen.
 

[kbb468]

Guys please don't get me wrong, I don't mean any harm. I was only searching for the reason why gunsmiths were against certain calibers in the switch barrel action from savage and would hate to run into the same thing with the Remington action with the switch barrel concept. Thanks for the clarification.

[358Hammer]

If one is to make an accurate decision about something then research must me be done.

In my opinion only, Savage did not become the Savage of today until Ron Coburn took the helm.  Now they and their products have made some serious inroads that have left a bunch of people scratching their heads.
I did not come on board with Savage until a few years ago.

Now I feel they have a very excellant product and have provided an avenue at a reasonable price for me to do what I like to do.  Personally I won't spend $700.- $1200. dollars on an action if I can safely spend $350. for a Stevens.  Money is hard to come by these days.

Neal

[Northlander]

I have just received my first shipment of the new Rem-Age Barrel Nuts. I have barrels being made at this time. If you have a Remington Model 700 and you would like the flexability to convert it into a Switch Barrel Rifle I now have the parts that you will need.

Jim Briggs
NSS

[60yrshooter]

I just logged on to this forum.  Do you have in stock a Savage 12 VLP in 223 and at what price?  Shipping, credit card cost, etc.

[Hammer]

Northlander,

Thank you for providing this service and wish you well in this business endeavor.

Hammer

[efm77]

I think you hear things like that from gunsmiths because they don't want to lose business.  If you can do it yourself and not use them, then they are losing business.  However, the gunsmiths I have talked to near my home have all said the RUM's are fin on the standard shank, even while still using the nut.  Think about it, even with a Remington there's a portion of their 1.06" shank that's exposed from the receiver before it steps up to the shoulder.  It's the part under the recoil lug.  If it was gonna blow, I think that's where it would because the recoil lug has to slide over the barrel it's not a tight enough fit to add any strength over the chamber there.  Remington also uses a more course thread pattern which makes deeper cuts into the barrel shank than savage.  So I would say that the Savage probably is the stronger action because of the smaller threads and the action seems a little beefier too but that's just my opinion.

[Centex Bill]

Could you post a picture of these barrel nuts?  How much stock alteration will be necessary to utilize this new system?
Can existing barrels be re-machined to switch-barrel nut configuration?

Thanks for doing this project.

Centex Bill

[Northlander]

Centex Bill,
The Barrel Nuts that I have are exactly like the Savage Barrel Nuts. I do not post photo's on this web site but if you send me an e-mail at briggs.j-b@q.com I can send you a photo of one of my Barrel Nuts there. I was hoping to have a Rem-Age Barrel mounted to a Remington 700 Action by now but they are not available here yet.

Jim Briggs
NSS

[snicl1]

Mr Briggs,

I read in the link a few posts up that getting the exact headspace after removing the barrel can be tricky when using a barrel nut.  Can the headspace be set using a fire formed casing (without primer & powder) so brass won't need to be full length sized?

Are barrels from Shilen available? 

Sounds like a great product & can't wait to get a few new calibers for my 700's!

Thanks

Chris.