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« on: October 22, 2009, 12:00:21 PM » |
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Found it.
The Hornet cartridge for the Savage 10/11/12/16 rifle.
5.7 x 28mm FN
Looks like a miniature 221 Fireball.
Case length is 1.135 inches. COAL is 1.525 inches.
Holds about 7.5 grains of powder.
From a pistol barrel (4-3/4 inch) gives about 1,700 fps with a 40-grain bullet.
From a rifle barrel ought to get above 2,000 fps.
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« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2009, 12:10:33 PM » |
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VERY COOL!!
There was a guy here on the forum trying to do this with a wildcat not too long ago......
I'll have to do some research on it.
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« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2009, 12:15:42 PM » |
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One of our local FFLs just bought one for her CCW. I didn't understand why she wanted that particular cartridge for defensive use but it's her choice.
I never thought about chambering a rifle in that.
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« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2009, 01:23:29 PM » |
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The 5.7x28 is a very neat little round and not as costly as one would think. They seem to be very accurate given the FiveseveN (what FN calls the pistol) is accurate to 100 yards with open sights. The actual groups sizes were surprising. The round is very fast for it's size. I know several people that have it in T/C handguns and love it. It should do well for what you want and a box of 50 rounds runs $20, not bad.
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« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2009, 01:58:39 PM » |
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I have looked at the spent rounds and thought what a cool .20 or 17 wildcat it would make
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« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2009, 04:36:35 PM » |
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Been kicking the 5.7x28 around for a while now?? Have a few hundred peices if range brass and finding more all the time. Would necking it down to 17 would make it a reloadable 17HMR? Found another neat use for the little case too, gotta read down the page a little till you get to pics. http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f84/mule-deer-hunt-47581/ |
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« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2009, 06:55:37 PM » |
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Bet it'd work real good in a 20 inch barrel.
Best I can tell, the case rim diameter is .307. Does some one make a bolt head for it?
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« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2009, 08:07:57 PM » |
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Some one needs to build a .20 or .17 Wild Cat based on it. CRRRRRAAACKKKK!!! I bet it would be an awsome almost 200yd. varm cartridge.
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« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2009, 07:26:46 PM » |
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HAHA. . . I know someone who has already been pondering this for close to a year, and he is the one to build one too. . ..
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« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2009, 10:14:23 PM » |
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Where can you find ammo?
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« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2009, 10:17:44 PM » |
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Not sure about general availability of this ammo, but a local dealer tells me he has sold half-dozen guns chambered for this round just this month.
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« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2009, 10:23:18 PM » |
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The place I work part time always has stacks of it and it moves quickly
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« Reply #12 on: October 25, 2009, 04:58:07 AM » |
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Pickt up a box of 5.7x28 ammo and I aint even got a gun to shoot it in  Was checking to see what it would work in hoping it might work in a 93 17HMR action, it would fit the magazine for size but not length  Next I tryed it in a single shot Savage, its too small and will not ramp into the chamber  Tryed the little CZ next and if a guy bushed the bolt and redid the mag a little it might just work  The easiest solution might be to rechamber a 17HMR TC ancore barrel? Would make a great little carry gun but dang I hate breaking the sight pickture to reload!  |
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« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2009, 05:21:44 PM » |
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I picked up a spent shell at the range the other day and matched it to a 20 VT. Wow for a center fire it sure is small. Since it was only a shell I have no idea what the bullet would weigh. It looks like it COULD be a real fun cartridge to work with and one pound of powder should go a looooong way. Does anyone have any load data?
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« Reply #14 on: October 25, 2009, 07:08:41 PM » |
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The Lyman 49th Reloading Manual has loads for 35, 40, and 45 grain bullets.
The powder charges range from 4.3 to 7.5 grains of powder.
Velocities from a 4-3/4 pistol barrel range from 1400 to 1800 fps.
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