LRPV in 22-250 going long RANGE 600 - 1000 YDS WTB Barrels

[phil357]

I am in the process of getting a LRPV 22-250 I think it is the 1-12 twist. I am looking at target shooting as my main focus and someday get out there for some long range hunting and I would like to get a few barrels .223, 308 & 284/7mm what suggestions and what king of luck have you have with any of these combos and manufactures. I will also be looking prone stock and for the 308 I am going to go for iron sights/palma. Never had a Savage before I have just been hearing really good things... So and pointers, suppliers, load data, barrel twist, tread pitch, and scope base. AND IF ANYONE HAS ANYTHING LAYING AROUND THAT COULD BE USED

Thanks,

Phil

[ctrout]

I know that to reach out as far as you are talking about with any kind of success you will need LOTS of practice.  The best way to do this is with the cheapest to shoot caliber.  Of those that you listed, that would be the 223.  I also know that you need a high ballistic coefficient projectile to buck the wind and maintain velocity/trajectory.  This means 75-90gr bullets in the 223.  You will need at least a 1:8 twist to stabilize anything heavier than 75gr (for the most part).  So I would start with a 1:8 Shilen select match 223 barrel and start load development at 75gr bullets.  In fact, for just a bit of added velocity, I would order the barrel in 223 Ackley Improved.  I have never owned a 308 or any 7mm/284 cal rifle so I can't comment on those.

[Jamie]

Phil,
Freindly note, need to get rid of the last sentence in your post.  We have a buy/sell/trade forum here but you have to be a member to see it.  It is only $12 a year.  Bewarned that $12 has cost me alot in buying things that I had to have and were great deals.

For the rest, I think I would pass on the .223 and the .308.  The 22-250 will do everything the 223 can and a little more.  The .308 is a great round but if I was planning on shooting 600-1000 yrds I would look at the 6mm/.243, 6.5 mm, 7mm calibers.   The BC is alot better for those rounds.  

[Dennis]

Jamie, what barrel would you recommend for the 22-250 long range shooting.  I have a stock VLP 22-250.

[EFBell]

You would still need a fast twist rate and heavy bullets for the 22-250. I have never done this either but I would start with a 7 or 8 twist with berger 80 or 90 grain match or VLD bullets if I was to pursue this route.

[Der Verge]

You would still need a fast twist rate and heavy bullets for the 22-250. I have never done this either but I would start with a 7 or 8 twist with berger 80 or 90 grain match or VLD bullets if I was to pursue this route.

If you do so, my 8 twist -250 would not stabilize the 90 VLD.  You will need to go 7 twist.

[EFBell]

I should have said "Respectively" and reversed the numbers. Thanks for clearing it up.

[JCalhoun]

Phil;

Savage offers a Model 12 Palma rifle. You should definitely consider it.

[Der Verge]

I should have said "Respectively" and reversed the numbers. Thanks for clearing it up.

I was not trying to be a jerk.  Just did not want the guy blowing a few hundred on a barrel just to not end up with what he wanted.  I am seriously looking at a .22-250AI setup in 7 twist for the 90 VLDs.  Hey,  with about 3200fps and a BC of .551, 1k does not seem that far away.  It is only about 22 MOA elevation (from 100yrd zro) and 6 MOA drift @ 10mph.  I know there are better, but there are definately worse.

[EFBell]

I was not trying to suggest you were being a jerk there De verge. I had my numbers bass akwards. I knew what I was trying to say but did not quite say it right. Running the numbers I would say it's entirely possible. If you just have to do it with a 224 I would think it would be a good way to go about it.

[Jamie]

I agree, If I am going to 1K with a .22 then it would be 1:8 at a minimum, prefer 1:7 but it would be with a .22-243 variant.  Now for just buying a LRPV, I'd try to get the 1:9 22-250.  Should have no issues to 600 yrds with that.  I have shot prairie poodles that far with a 1:12 twist .22-250.  I just didn't see the point in buying a rifle in .22-250 and then putting a .223 barrel on it.

The first barrel I would buy would be a 1:7 6mm of some type to shoot 115 grain DTACs. Set up in a 243 AI that would all you need to for reliable 1K shooting.  Ofcourse there are more exotic chamberings that will work very well and better if your bottom line is to shoot the tiniest groups you can at 1K.  If you are just hitting steel at that range then the exotics are just a more expensive way to do it.

[phil357]

I thank you for you impiety guys but I think I am going to start out with 223 and I have used my service rifle at 1K with a 1x8 twist with 75G Amax worked well but couldn't hold a group very well (my eyes & iron sight). I just pickup a 26" 1x8 Shilien and I will be buying a 308 barrel in the next couple days as well. Now my problem is choosing a stock. I have the factory LRPV stock and just pick up a factory F/TR stock to start out with. What stock do you guys think is more accurate and is there a need to go to an after market stock and if so what is the recommended stock for F/TR and what stock for Palma are most guys going  with. I will also be looking for a RP/RB for Palma.