308 Win Loads

[wbm]

My loads: 41g Accurate 4064 Sierra Matchkings Nosler brass CCI Large Rifle Primer. Does amazing things at long range.

What he said!!

[hafejd30]

-kschilling-

Not sure if Texas is the same but in michigan our DNR issues what are called "crop damage permits" to local farmers who are experiencing damage to their crops. The DNR will assess the damage to the crops and amount of land the farmer has to determine the correct amount of permits to issue. The farmer then develops a list of designated shooters to take the deer.

This is from late june/early july through end of september. Only deer with antlers 3 inches or less (just does in our case if we can help it) are allowed to be taken during normal shooting hours.

We have a significant amount of deer in our area. In fact the DNR changed the law this year to let the farmers go from the previous limit of 3 shooters to adding up to 15 shooters.

FYI for those of you wondering what it does to the population we took 3 from one field last week. The total of deer we saw from that one spot included 11 bucks (4 decent 8 pts), and about 7 does. This is a field we've been shooting for several years.

Now back to the origional topic

[supergolfer18]

anyone using the Hornady 178 BTHP over the Amaxs? They have a much higher BC

[hafejd30]

havnt tried the BTHP yet. Supposedly the accuracy is neck and neck with the Amax. I chose Amax because my research led me to finding a lot of people who used those for deer as well as targets. I have found they do work well for both. I started with 155 amax, but wanted more range. Then went to 168, now I use 168 in my mid-range build (to 700 yds) and 178 in my long range build.

I know the sierra matchking, which are similar in build to the BTHP's, are not recommended on deer from people that have tried them.

The furthest deer kills with the 168's were 2 deer and a coyote between 630 to 635 yards. This is the first year for the new build with the 178's. There running faster than the 168's do and pack more punch. If you decide to try them go directly to the 178's. Both guns are 1/10 twist and shoot better with the 168 to 178 than they did with the 155's.

I have also shot a bear with the 168's. Shot in the heart lung area and bullet proceeded into the front shoulder. Dropped in its tracks. Only about a 115 yd shot tho.

[Dennis]

I have had very good luck with 190 Orange Box Berger hunting bullets in my 10 twist. 43.5 grains Varget, .010 in the lands, CCI large rifle primers! VERY accurate out to 600 yds! I shot 60 rounds at 600 yds hitting the 3" bullseye 21 times! FYI

I know several shooting the same load and one person shooting this load in a 12" twist 28" barrel! Very accurate.

[kschilling]

hafejd30 -
Finally clarification!!!!!! Thank you.... Yes, I understand you're problem. I hunt an area of land in Kansas that has the same problem. And No, Texas does not offer that on Whitetail deer. I would've thought there were enough hunters in that area to control the issue..... At any rate..... control the herd!

[supergolfer18]

loaded up the 168 amax using Varget and Fed 210M primers @ 2.240"(ogive) which is a 0.015" jump to lands. Starting charge 43gr and am going to work up in 0.3 to determine max charge. Brass is WW virgin brass

[Deerhunter 28]

loaded up the 168 amax using Varget and Fed 210M primers @ 2.240"(ogive) which is a 0.015" jump to lands. Starting charge 43gr and am going to work up in 0.3 to determine max charge. Brass is WW virgin brass

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[hafejd30]

Food for though..... My savage and criterion barrel shot better with Amax the further I got from the lands. My savage barrel started out about .020" off and is now .032" off. Same load just barrel wear. It keeps getting better the more it wears down.

I did test the amax- jammed, .005, .010 and .015 off the lands. Closer I got the more they opened up.

[Luckus]

My match load in a 12FTR. 42.8 gr H4895, WLR, 175 gr SMK, about .020 jump IIRC. Very accurate. Measure all bullets to ogive, sort them and load.

[DougMH]

I know you want one bullet, but if you're doing both long range target shooting and hunting, I recommend 2 bullets... but they're fairly expensive.

175 grain Berger VLD
175 grain Berger VLD (Hunting)

Both the hunting and target bullets have exactly the same profile and BC (.498). You should be able to shoot them interchangeably.