xsskeet
12-09-2012, 12:04 AM
Howdy all -
I'm the new guy to the forum, and have been reading posts for the last few months... Learned a lot.
I have been shooting a .308 10FP for the last couple of years and that rascal has filled the freezer a few times. I shoot a lot of Contenders and Encores, and have been reloading for some 40+ years. Shoot competitive skeet with the bride, and just in general have fun.
So.. Here is the issue
I picked up a 30-06 111 Combo with the Nikon BDC on it the other day. Scrapped the junk rings and did a little clean up on it.
This evening, I was getting "Max OAL lengths" with the Stoney point gauge (now Hornady) and compared the averages to some loads I had for the old O3A3. The Nolser 150 Accubonds and Sierra Game Kings were fine. Where I discovered the issue was with the 150 Hornady's... Hornady lists a tested seating Depth of 3.210... I checked what I had, and they were right on the money. Slipping a round in the chamber, I could not close the bolt! I grabbed a marker and covered the neck and bullet. Slipping it back in, I eased the bolt forward and tried to close. No luck... Slipping the case out, you can see on the bullet, right where it makes a taper, the marker had been removed.
I adjusted the seating depth down to 3.20 and could close the bolt, but was way harder than what I think normal should be. Once again, I adjusted the depth to 3.195 and it closed a little easier.
Something seems a bit out of whack with this... A friend of mine shoots 180's (dont ask... :ambivalence:) so I going to grab a couple of his factory loads, check the OAL's and see if they chamber.
I'm suspecting a "Short Throat"...
Has anyone here on the forum ran up against "Factory" short throats? I may give Savage a call Monday and see what they say..
Oh... I did discover another issue.. When I loaded a few rounds through the top into the DBM, it actually moved it down enough that the bolt would not pick up a round... Had to push the back of the magazine ( by the trigger guard) up to where it was seated again... Anyone else seen this?
Thanks!
Bill
I'm the new guy to the forum, and have been reading posts for the last few months... Learned a lot.
I have been shooting a .308 10FP for the last couple of years and that rascal has filled the freezer a few times. I shoot a lot of Contenders and Encores, and have been reloading for some 40+ years. Shoot competitive skeet with the bride, and just in general have fun.
So.. Here is the issue
I picked up a 30-06 111 Combo with the Nikon BDC on it the other day. Scrapped the junk rings and did a little clean up on it.
This evening, I was getting "Max OAL lengths" with the Stoney point gauge (now Hornady) and compared the averages to some loads I had for the old O3A3. The Nolser 150 Accubonds and Sierra Game Kings were fine. Where I discovered the issue was with the 150 Hornady's... Hornady lists a tested seating Depth of 3.210... I checked what I had, and they were right on the money. Slipping a round in the chamber, I could not close the bolt! I grabbed a marker and covered the neck and bullet. Slipping it back in, I eased the bolt forward and tried to close. No luck... Slipping the case out, you can see on the bullet, right where it makes a taper, the marker had been removed.
I adjusted the seating depth down to 3.20 and could close the bolt, but was way harder than what I think normal should be. Once again, I adjusted the depth to 3.195 and it closed a little easier.
Something seems a bit out of whack with this... A friend of mine shoots 180's (dont ask... :ambivalence:) so I going to grab a couple of his factory loads, check the OAL's and see if they chamber.
I'm suspecting a "Short Throat"...
Has anyone here on the forum ran up against "Factory" short throats? I may give Savage a call Monday and see what they say..
Oh... I did discover another issue.. When I loaded a few rounds through the top into the DBM, it actually moved it down enough that the bolt would not pick up a round... Had to push the back of the magazine ( by the trigger guard) up to where it was seated again... Anyone else seen this?
Thanks!
Bill