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Dirtydeeds
08-26-2013, 01:38 PM
Scopes normally out price the rifle they sit on in most builds I've seen. At least builds of serious comp shooters or long range rigs. Or come close to doing so.

Yeah but an axis (which I'm not knocking as I own one in a .270 and like very much)

Dirtydeeds
08-26-2013, 01:39 PM
Somewhere between silly and awesome depending on how busy the range is.

in case your curious..
http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u540/afartinthewind/image_zps4cde85d0.jpg (http://s1320.photobucket.com/user/afartinthewind/media/image_zps4cde85d0.jpg.html)


No that's all awesome no matter how bust the range is. :) I like the camo, looks sharp.

afartinthewind
08-26-2013, 01:55 PM
Thanks man. Keep in mind it's not like I'm out 600 bucks, it was only 40 out of pocket. Had I paid full price I'd absolutely agree that it's ridiculous on my stock axis, I'm sure it will seem a bit less silly on the axis once I get a new wooden stock (fingers crossed) and barrel like Wolf's sexy little rifle.

Nandy
08-26-2013, 05:16 PM
I dont understand the mind frame here that if it is not an expensive rifle it dont deserve to have a decent or great scope. As long as the gun/scope are matching the user needs you get the best glass you can afford.

LoneWolf
08-26-2013, 05:24 PM
I think what he was getting at is the fact that the scope exceeds the capabilities of the rifle. Although it will put rounds on target the scope would be more useful on a rifle with more capability. I did the math on my build and I'm at the $1300 dollar mark on it. Hopefully by the end of the week I will have the rest of the parts I have ordered and be able to custom fit it to myself aswell.

Anyways, it's one of those things that you can do it and it will definitely work, but is it a little over kill at the moment. Nothing "wrong" with it, just something most would do naturally.

LoneWolf
08-26-2013, 05:28 PM
But hey if I had a free Night Force Scope and all I had was an Axis you better believe I'd throw it on there!

Mach2
08-27-2013, 12:38 AM
The Leupold needs to be on a Savage Classic but for now the Axis should be very happy dating a Leupold. It's sorta like the waterboy dating the head cheerleader. LOL!
I watch Jeff Quinn over at Gunblast.com. He switches Leupolds around on different rifles as need be. I saw him move a VX-3 onto a Savage with a Creedmore barrel. Hmm, you don't suppose your Leupold may end up on a..............nah.

Dirtydeeds
08-27-2013, 10:54 PM
I dont understand the mind frame here that if it is not an expensive rifle it dont deserve to have a decent or great scope. As long as the gun/scope are matching the user needs you get the best glass you can afford.

I %100 agree with you "As long as the gun/scope are matching the user needs you get the best glass you can afford". The part that amused me ( and made me somewhat envious) was the fact he got a Leupold VX3. Again I'm not knocking the axis but I think most would agree it is a budget rifle. It's a bit unusual to find this type of higher end scope on what could easily be considered a budget rifle.

Now just because I say budget rifle does not mean I am saying the rifle is no good. I very much enjoy shooting mine. I have a black and stainless axis in a .270 which I put an older version Leupold VX2. I personally think it's a decent match. If I had a VX3 I'd probably put that on there instead.

Please keep in mind post like this do not always convey some of our light hearted comments and we are often left at the mercy of the person's interpretation who is reading it. I admit, lol my laziness while typing some of these post may very well have contributed to this but I meant no disrespect. I actually do like the scope and rifle.

http://www.sunsetdj.ca/hunting/axisleupoldvx2.jpg

afartinthewind
08-28-2013, 01:29 AM
Thanks everyone for the kind words. The main reason I posted was to add that the sharpshooter that came with my axis failed miserably in my case. I add the bit about the vx3 only to brag (ugh) about getting a $1000 scope for $40 because I'm VERY exited about it. I definitely wouldn't have considered purchasing it at MSRP for an entry level rifle no more than I'd put a $2000 intake/exhaust on a dodge neon. However if said intake/exhaust came to me at say $80 I'd absolutely pull the trigger. Pun intended :)
I should add that I found the comment about the 300 rifle on the 600 scope highly amusing. I did indeed Lolz.

thermaler
08-28-2013, 07:01 AM
My axis 308 has a 4 x 12 leupold rifleman which I scored someplace for somewhere around $250. Even the crap 3 x 9's which almost every package deal has are in the mid to upper $100 class but generally are useless to me. My axis with the very basic and light-weight leupold has produced ragged one-hole groups. Good glass is going to make any rifle shoot better.

fla9-40
08-28-2013, 07:11 AM
It's a bit unusual to find this type of higher end scope on what could easily be considered a budget rifle.


I wonder if Savage did that on purpose...Budget rifle so you can afford to put high end glass on it? :p

thermaler
08-28-2013, 08:59 AM
Of course--this raises the question--why not slap on a good pair iron sites and see what you can do? : )

Nandy
08-28-2013, 09:50 AM
To start let me just say I was not offended, heck, I dont even own an Axis YET...
My point was that an Axis can shoot as good as any stock 110/10 action and if you do upgrades it will shoot as good as any upgraded 110/10 gun so there should be no shame in adding good glass to a good gun no matter if the good gun was a budget gun.
Group hug!!!! lol!

thermaler
08-28-2013, 11:22 AM
I wonder if Savage did that on purpose...Budget rifle so you can afford to put high end glass on it? :pMy theory has always been package guns come with factory seconds/refurbisheds from the scope makers. Can't prove it of course. : ) Maybe ammo manufacturers subsidize them--it might take a 100 rounds to zero and you might still be scratching your head wondering why you can't get that sub-MOA : )

Muzz
08-28-2013, 08:15 PM
Just want to throw in my 2 cents about the bushnell scope that come with the axis rifles,

In a word terrible.
Just yesterday I was down the range breaking in the barrel on my new axis 270 and sighting it in, after 30 rounds I was happy. After the 31st the reticule detached itself from the inside of the scope. I took it back to the store and they gave me $50 credit back and I bought a redfield scope to replace it.

I'm just happy that it happened at the range and not on the first shot on a weekend away hunting.

My advise, is to do it right the first time and spend as mush on your scope as you do your rifle. In the long run you won't regret it.

thermaler
08-28-2013, 11:26 PM
Sounds like a proper break-in--you fired, it broke. : ) Package scopes are like going out on a blind date. : )

jpdown
08-29-2013, 01:27 AM
And for all those who claim we are just a bunch of "scope snobs" and "package scope bashers", I rest my case. You'll spend more time and waste more ammo trying to sight-in and keep these bargin scopes zeroed than they are worth. Sell it as a new take-off on Ebay and someone will most likely take it off your hands for more than it's worth. Take the cash and what you are going to waste on ammo and get yourself a decent scope backed by a no hassel manufacture warranty. You will be money ahead in the long run.

Inebriated
09-11-2013, 02:34 AM
My .243 has one. It's been great, considering its price point and all. Not as clear as the Nikon 3-9x40 (which I actually like a lot) that came on my 111, but it get's the job done. It has been on the rifle for about a year, and is only going to come off when it either shatters, or I get an SWFA.

For what it's worth, though, the only reason I bought the packages was because they were on sale, and comparable to the non-package options. The other Savages I have were bought naked. I would rather not spend extra for a package, when I'm just going to replace the scope anyway.

paperkite
09-14-2013, 12:30 PM
I just got one of the Axis XP packages in .223 for my grandson , as an entry level rifle he will most likely still be shooting years from now . It was a great deal at 329$ nib on sale and I reload .223 for several rifles of my own (which he is learning how ) . It is a great entry level rifle and one should not expect Savage to put a wonderful scope on such a package . When grandson some day will be buying his own and he will never forget the first time with this rifle . He is a good shot and I expect he will be buying more Savages ( not to mention inheriting many of my guns and rifles ) as he gets older. He is a great shooting partner and his Grandmother and I felt he deserved a good start. So if you have someone in your life that you want to do something good for, get 'em to church .... and Get 'em an Axis XP !!! Nope, I don't own any stock or any way have a financial intrest in Savage...

762X51
10-02-2013, 04:02 PM
So how does it feel having a $300 rifle on your $600 scope?

My shooting buddy has a $1500 Swarovski on his .270 Axis! We laugh about it every time we shoot that rifle. Another buddy gave him the scope. Luckily his Axis is more accurate than a high dollar rifle that would usually wear a scope like that. Like they say "you can't hit what you can't see".