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Handloader
03-12-2014, 10:30 PM
Off topic, kinda.....
I might have mentioned that the only thing I don't love about my 650 is the priming....
I would much rather seat my primers by hand with my el-cheapo 30 year old Lee hand primer. I usually just prime while watching tv, whatever. I have never used the priming arm on any of my single stage press, either. Just not enough 'feel' for loose pockets.
Loading primed cases into the 650 has absolutely no impact on output speed. Although, being retired, I'm never in that much of a hurry.
ha ha

ron

I hear ya, I have the Dillon 650 and the Hornady LocknLoAD AP. Both the priming systems are crappy, and after I had the Dillon roll a primer and the whole tube of primers had sympathetic detonation. That was it for me. I know one should wear ear muffs and safety glasses, but on the bench I find I often do not. I found the indicator rod up in the floor joist. I hand prime everything. Bottom line, by the time you figure out the primer is not working, enough powder as fell out the flash hole that you have to pull the assembly apart for a cleaning.
To the OP, for precision rifle or subsonic loads, I use an RCBS single stage, or I put a funnel on the progressive to put measured/weighed powder charges into the case. For all my semi-automatics and handguns, I let the powder dispenser do the work for me.
Another benefit of hand priming, I tumble the brass, lube, deprime and size, then I tumble again and prime. I have tumble loaded rounds before, but I do not like that (learned the hard way early on when shooting rounds that still had some lube on them. They were "hot" to begin with, and it took a wooden handle to beat my bolt open.....never again).

stimpylu32
03-14-2014, 04:14 PM
I'm just getting up and running on my 550B for rifle rounds , I've got a batch of 2K - 223's that I need loaded before warm weather gets here , so far it is doing a good job , the Dillon is a new learning curve as all my loading over the last 25+ years has been done on single stage presses . I have found that you need to not rush the process , just a slow /steady cycle does best .

One thing I have found is the priming stage needs to be watched carefully , being too jerky on the handle has a tendancy to flip primers , either upside down or even worse , sideways , those can be a real PITA to get out of the shell plate .

All in all I do like the fit & function of the Dillon , just need to get used to it .

stimpy

Appleseed
03-15-2014, 04:47 PM
Thanks all for the thread, and especially to Sean for his help getting me up to speed on the 550B. Great members here! Btw, is jethro still in jail?

seanhagerty
03-15-2014, 09:39 PM
My pleasure, Let me know if you wanna get together and shoot a bit. Bring your bang stick out here.

A_Gamehog
03-16-2014, 02:53 AM
I love the Dillon XL650 with the case feed attachment. Very good loads and dependable. I use a "ball" powder X-Terminator and it meters like water, very precise measurement every time. I load .223 and .204
all I do is change the dies. Yes those are Forrester Dies in a dillon Press loading .223. For my .204 I use Redding Dies 30$ off the shelf for one hole loads @ 100 yards. Dogtown cheap bullets and this setup shoots very good. 3 Different bullets, 3 different poi but my point is they shoot. 34 Nosler (dogtowns) 32 Nosler Lead free, 32 V-Max all with the same recipe. Very easy to setup and use. I have loaded since 1967..lol 4 Savage rifles in the corner...2 Custom 204's and .223's It's needed because I shot 780 rds. last Tuesday at ground squirrels (squeaks) in just one day....

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n4ue
03-16-2014, 10:52 AM
Gamehog, nice setup. One question, how old is your 650? I guess I've had mine for at least 15 years. I made my own roller handle which helps my 'bad' right wrist.
I ask the age because I notice the new 650s have zerk fittings for the linkage points. Mine has a via hole to drop oil into.
I don't even use mine any more and even when I did, I didn't crank out enough to worry about wearing it out.
My RCBS 'Chucker is at least 40 years old and is as tight as new...

ron

HotGuns
03-16-2014, 01:19 PM
I've been loading 30 different calibers on a 550B since 1984. Hasn't failed yet.

wrench man
03-16-2014, 05:10 PM
Load from the 25-20 to 458WM on my 550B, if I'm using ball/flake powders once the the charge settles it never moves!, stick powders (4064) usually meter to within .2grns, I trickle them to the nut as I generally use them for hunting loads that are not shot in volume.

A_Gamehog
03-16-2014, 05:44 PM
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It's new, I got another one years ago but I sold it during a divorce for lawyer $$

I does have grease zerks.. and it does a few new things. The primers that are rotated into position and there is no case now slide down a tray for re-use. On the old 550B it jammed up the works eventually. The powder setup is really sweet, the primer setup needs some common sense to work. THE remington 7 1/2's seat in the lake city brass fine but the cci 450's jam 1 out of 30-40. They are tighter. The press tells you the loads you can make eventually. I use an air compressor quite frequently and it keeps things spotless.

jonbearman
03-20-2014, 06:31 PM
I have had 2 550's and they both made accurate ammo with run out well within necessary standards. My basement is lower than most and with the primer weight in place it clears easily.You wont regret buying one.Look on the web as some place's offer slight discounts on their products.I have loaded pistol and many rifle cartridge's with it and zero problems doing it. From .218 bee to 45-70 and all the pistol you can think of like .380,9mm,38's,357,40s&w,45acp,44spec,44mag etc.

shovelheadave
03-27-2014, 08:57 PM
I have a 550B that I use for .223 and 9mm. Love it.