308 full length sizing issue

[Zero333]

The vent hole on the die could be right under the lock ring thus why you can't see it.

Hornady one-shot brass sizing spray is the very best. Stand cases up and spray from all 4 corners. Let sit for a few minutes, then size. I've tried all types of sizing lubes and waxes, and the Hornady One-Shot sizing spray is the best. Brass sizes like a hot knife through butter.

[RC20]

While I also believe its a lube issue, I am puzzled on the remarks about PPU

I run a fair amount of it in 308 and 30-06 (no pistol). Never a loose primer pocket. All has 6 to 10 cycles on it.

Its been solid, its also annealed (as is all factory ammo) many polish it off. My PPU like the Lapua is not polished off.

One firing is not going to cause an issue with any brass.

I have run a number of brass mfgs. FC is nice one shot stuff, its way soft and is throw away after 5 rounds at best.

Hornady is thin and does not stand up. RP, PPU and Lapua are my go to. PPU seems a bit harder per Lapua. All 3 are very close to the same weight. FC is always the heaviest.

PPU looks to me a good price, will see how it does long term compared to the Lapua. I got the RP once fired either direct collect or internet. It holds up and is sort of my baseline for assessing others.

I picked up some Herter' once fire, very poor quality primer pockets. That's also throw away as its not worth the fuss trying to punch primers out and seat them.

[bigedp51]

I agree with RC20 I have PPU brass in .303 British and 30-06, and the .303 British brass is the best modern made brass you can get for a Enfield rifle.

Below are two .303 British cases fired in the same Enfield rifle, the PPU case on the left has a larger base diameter, is .010 thicker in the base and has thicker rims. The HXP case on the right has a smaller base diameter, is thinner in the base and a thinner rim.

http://i.imgur.com/eM3H3ls.jpg

Bottom line the Prvi Partizan PPU cases are made heavy duty like military Lake City brass and built Ford Truck Tough.

[bearcatrp]

I will second on the rcbs spray lube. I used this stuff when I had my 50BMG and never had issues resizing with this stuff. Never see it on the local shelves so I order 5 bottles when I order online.

[Trenton91]

I've checked under the lock ring, no vent hole. And I'm not hating on PPU. The primer issue was in the pistol(38 & 357) cases. No issues with the 308 brass yet. And if it's built Ford tough, point me to the good Chevy brass. As to the dies, I've emailed Redding about it to see if it missed a step in the manufacturing process. I might even go ahead and put one in it anyways. I've got the tooling to do it.

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[ncwg2boatguy]

Sound advice. It happened to me.

[Trenton91]

Sound advice. It happened to me.
Turned out to be me. Got lube on the neck. Redding advised me to only lube the neck and body. I also polished the expander area and that helped with the occasional stiff case. Due to their response (call, not an email), I'll be updating ALL my reloading equipment (minus the Dillon presses and Harrell powder throw) to Redding products. I also got lucky enough to get some once fired Nosler Custom brass from a guy that didn't know what it was. After depriming and SS wet tumble, they all weighed within .2 grains of each other. That's not bad for 24 pieces of brass.

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[RC20]

I've checked under the lock ring, no vent hole. And I'm not hating on PPU. The primer issue was in the pistol(38 & 357) cases. No issues with the 308 brass yet. And if it's built Ford tough, point me to the good Chevy brass. As to the dies, I've emailed Redding about it to see if it missed a step in the manufacturing process. I might even go ahead and put one in it anyways. I've got the tooling to do it.

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I like 3 types of brass a lot.

Lapua of course is first class.

PPU as stated

I like RP a lot, its a bit softer and easier to work with but not FC soft.

I have a lot of RP, a middle amount of PPU and Lapua (only on sale though!)

[Trenton91]

I like 3 types of brass a lot.

Lapua of course is first class.

PPU as stated

I like RP a lot, its a bit softer and easier to work with but not FC soft.

I have a lot of RP, a middle amount of PPU and Lapua (only on sale though!)
Can't bring myself to buy Lapua. When my 6mmBR is finished.

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[Iowa Fox]

If you turned the die in an addtional 1/4 to 1/3 turn how much are you bumping the shoulder? I just put a new Redding die into service and I screwed it in to touch the shell holder then backed it out one full turn. Then I slowly screwed the die in until I got a measured .0015 to .002 shoulder bump measured with a RCBS precision mic. Thats pretty much what the instructions from Redding said. This is with a Redding Boss press, Redding shell holder, and Redding die. I cleaned the die well and I could feel the roughness for at least the first 150 rounds even with well waxed cases, then it disappeared and is smooth as silk.

[Trenton91]

The directions weren't so clear, so I went to the fallback plan. Lee directions. Insert shellholder, raise ram, screw die in until it touches, lower ram, screw in additional 1/4 - 1/3 and raise ram to overcam. Screw down the locking ring, begin sizing. Redding said it's perfectly fine. It resizes the brass back to acceptable handloading specs per SAAMI.

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[RC20]

You will also get case separation in about 8 rounds.

[Trenton91]

You will also get case separation in about 8 rounds.
I'm on 12 and haven't had one separate yet. I've got 3 more loadings and 1 more annealing before I toss them. Mind you, this is not my competition brass. Bonus? I finally got the rifle to shoot well at 300 yards.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170528/ebe79e289d09a498b470a62823f17980.jpg

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[RC20]

First I am surprised at lack of separation and secondly if I was shooting that good regularly I would be dancing in the streets (very nice).

I am getting 4 shot groups of that class regularly but always a 5th in there someplace I get off and opens up to 1/2 or 5/8.

Progress but slow.

While I don't have a long enough term use on the PPU (rifle) for absolute, it is acting more and more like a poor mans Lapua and your results seem to confirm that.

[Trenton91]

First I am surprised at lack of separation and secondly if I was shooting that good regularly I would be dancing in the streets (very nice).

I am getting 4 shot groups of that class regularly but always a 5th in there someplace I get off and opens up to 1/2 or 5/8.

Progress but slow.
Dancing? I was singing. It took me over 5 boxes of 175 SMKs and almost a full box of the 185 OTM Bergers to get to this point. She loves the 185s over 44.6 (max) of Varget at 2.800". I had finally figured out the velocity/barrel harmonics change with our brake and found that with the scope sighted at 100 yards with the 175 SMKs, the 185s shot on the first drop on the Vortex BDC on 16x(max). Since I've added this brake, I've enjoyed the way the gun shoots. Not to stretch it to 500 and beyond.....and to figure out how to afford the Bergers....

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