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yobuck
01-07-2018, 11:58 AM
Wait really? That’s like a huge reason western hunters are adding brakes, they can’t locate you as well.

As far as deer after shots. In immediate vicinity they will run/startle but I’ve found they run much more if the animal you shot runs, otherwise they just dance around a bit. We always sit back and relax for a while after downing a whitetail, lots of deer killed in that next 30 minutes. And it absolutely works with bucks. I’ve seen bucks hot on a doe, shot the doe and the buck still came right up to her.


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A brake dosent really affect the down range sound. Not sure if it affects the sound at all, other than how it aims it near the gun.
If your down range from the shooter, especially a considerable distance, the first sound is as if a small firecracker is exploding very close to you, and you could not determine the direction it came from. That would be followed shortly by the far off boom, the actual gun noise. CAP---BOOM.
The (CAP) part, is actually the sound barrier being broken by the bullet.
Target duty in the pits would give the same experience.
If you watch someone shoot from a long distance away, it takes considerable time for the sound to reach you after the shot takes place.
Ive already found a deer in my glasses, and saw it drop and slide down the hill before i heard the shooters shot.

Stretch
01-07-2018, 12:16 PM
A brake dosent really affect the down range sound. Not sure if it affects the sound at all, other than how it aims it near the gun.
If your down range from the shooter, especially a considerable distance, the first sound is as if a small firecracker is exploding very close to you, and you could not determine the direction it came from. That would be followed shortly by the far off boom, the actual gun noise. CAP---BOOM.
The (CAP) part, is actually the sound barrier being broken by the bullet.
Target duty in the pits would give the same experience.
If you watch someone shoot from a long distance away, it takes considerable time for the sound to reach you after the shot takes place.
Ive already found a deer in my glasses, and saw it drop and slide down the hill before i heard the shooters shot.

Well, I’ve listened to rifles fired in the Rockies that did and did not have brakes. The ones that did the sound seemed to envelope, those that didn’t were incredibly directional.

I understand this is the actual sound and not the sonic crack. Around 500 yards that’s going to take a second and a half I believe.

Now, my experience and the western hunters I have talked to about this all have subjective data, and absolutely could be being fooled by randomness. However, as I said that was why they added brakes it wasn’t recoil (though that is a genuine reason for many.)


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yobuck
01-07-2018, 01:39 PM
Well ive never heard it said by anybody, that the reason for them installing a brake was for anything other than recoil reduction, and the added benefits it offers for seeing hits.
Ive not personally noticed any change in a deers reaction to a shot, based on the gun having, or not having a brake.
Other animals react differently than a whitetail deer does for sure.
A bear for example, will as a rule, only offer one shot before it's on the run, and don't count on it stopping while it's still in sight.
If your in a group, let it be known that Mr Nice Guy only last for one shot, after that it's fair game.
But then again, next lifetime you just might see another. lol
An Antelope will as a rule be on the run also following a shot.
Elk, are actually dumber than a deer from the standpoint of being shot at.
But, whenever your hunting, best don't count on anything.

ttexastom
01-21-2018, 12:07 PM
Have about a 4 mile area behind my house before you see the next paved road. Have hiked and hunted all this, but only deer that was big enough for me to mount was shot maybe 75 yards from my back deck. Deer are strange creatures !!!

yobuck
01-21-2018, 02:59 PM
Unless their pressured, they will be where you find them.
And that can be surprisingly close to well inhabited areas.

NOOTKA NICK
01-22-2018, 11:46 PM
Have no idea what you're talking about.
Back in the day, what would you rather have done than eat,sleep,or drink ?????????????
today for me its sleep,eat,have a beer and ''mabe'' if I can find my ''blue pills '' !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!lol lol

Danatkins8605
05-21-2018, 08:25 PM
Kinda like the 3 I've shot and the one my wife shot

1st one was 3 years ago I'm sitting in a camp chair using a little brush thicket for cover overlooking a hillside that my dad has hunted my whole life. This beautiful 8pt walks about 70 yards out from me, I bring the shotgun up (mossberg500) and center the crosshair on him and pull the trigger. Thanks to buck fever I miss, he's looking at me like wtf did you just shoot at me. I run the pump and he runs off, so I sit down figuring well opening day there will be more. Not 5 minutes later dumb dumb walks right back out where he was before and stares as me as I stand up shoulder the gun and drill him.

#2 2 years ago the wife and I are sitting in a little home made hunting blind (think lemonade stand) and we'd been watching a few deer walking and trotting threw but none would stop long enough for a good shot. Then she taps me in the leg and excitedly whisper "honey deer" this little spike walks about 5 yards behind us and get about 25 yards in front of us and I drill him and he drops drt. Didn't even know we were around.

#3 and 4
Thanksgiving evening last year we decide to go hunting for a bit. Wife has the 243 axis I've got my flcp-sr. We walk down to the Lemonade stand and as we pass into the clearing to head over hill we see 2 deer about 150 yards down hill. She gets a bead on the leader I bring my rifle up to try and sight on the one in the back and can't get steady so I take a knee, they bolt. We walk down to the stand and sit down. About 45 minutes later here they come walking and munching. She drops the front deer and the back one jumps and takes about 10 steps back and turns looking at the other one. So I bring my rifle around and I'm watching him, didn't see any rack so I'm trying for a headshot to save meat but the deer keeps twitching around so I bring the crosshair down to right behind the shoulder and boom. I think he was waiting for his sweetie to get back up.

Then again my buddy the same year I got the spike dropped to doe and a fawn in about 5 minutes

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