Bolt face

[ArtinNC]

There is a little end play with the bolt . When the chamber is empty the bolt will move a few thousands ( maybe ) forward and COULD let the bolt face tuch the barrel , when there is a round in the chamber it keeps the bolt lugs against the lugs in the action and away from the barrel .

[Dave Hoback]

Yes, I wasn’t the only :rolleyes:person who figured this. (Post # 11 thought the same thing.)

[Robinhood]

There is a little end play with the bolt . When the chamber is empty the bolt will move a few thousands ( maybe ) forward and COULD let the bolt face tuch the barrel , when there is a round in the chamber it keeps the bolt lugs against the lugs in the action and away from the barrel .

When you close the bolt, the lugs are touching the abutments. This is happening because the firing pin spring makes that happen. Take out the firing pin and maybe it can float.

The only way the bolt head touches the end of the barrel is if the barrel is screwed in too far. If case protrusion is correct you would not be able to close the bolt on a round. You cant rub the bolt on the breech and be able to close the bolt on a round unless it is chambered long.

This makes this statement untrue.
"Wipes ink on empty chamber. No wiping when chambered. Sounds like it should be."

[ArtinNC]

When you close the bolt, the lugs are touching the abutments. This is happening because the firing pin spring makes that happen. Take out the firing pin and maybe it can float.

The only way the bolt head touches the end of the barrel is if the barrel is screwed in too far. If case protrusion is correct you would not be able to close the bolt on a round. You cant rub the bolt on the breech and be able to close the bolt on a round unless it is chambered long.

This makes this statement untrue.

Not true !! close the bolt on a empty chamber holding the trigger back so it is NOT cocked and you will have a little end play . A uncocked firing pin has a little end play. I dought that if I removed my barrel and remover a couple thousands from the barrel it would make any difference in the way that it shoots .

[Dave Hoback]

It won’t. If the surfaces are not rubbing with a round seats in the chamber, it’s fine. However, if you wish to do this, it’s not going to hurt anything. Provided you know what you’re doing.

Up to you. But I wouldn’t expect anything.

[Robinhood]

Not true !! close the bolt on a empty chamber holding the trigger back so it is NOT cocked and you will have a little end play . A uncocked firing pin has a little end play. I dought that if I removed my barrel and remover a couple thousands from the barrel it would make any difference in the way that it shoots .

To prove me wrong you mark the bolthead, you close the bolt while pulling the trigger and thrusting the bolt forward. I concede. You got me.

I somehow missed that closing the bolt on an empty chamber while pulling the trigger demonstrated your problem. Close the bolt like you would normally and there is no end play.

I don't find the of closing the bolt while holding down the trigger to be used in troubleshooting any known issue that I am aware of. If there is "end play" between the bolt head and the breech in the uncocked position, there is no reason to machine your barrel.

[ArtinNC]

(( I don't find the of closing the bolt while holding down the trigger to be used in troubleshooting any known issue that I am aware of. If there is "end play" between the bolt head and the breech in the uncocked position, there is no reason to machine your barrel.))

I just seen some marks on the bolt head and could not understand what was making them . And now I know that it is not from firing the gun , it is from closing the bolt on a empty chamber . Like I said a uncocked firing pin has a little end play. Even my custom actions have a little end play when the firing pin is not cocked .


(( To prove me wrong you mark the bolthead, you close the bolt while pulling the trigger and thrusting the bolt forward. I concede. You got me.))

That is not what I'm talking about . A uncocked firing pin , the boit has a little end play and made some rub marks on the front of my bolt is what I have found out .

[Dave Hoback]

I just seen some marks on the bolt head and could not understand what was making them . And now I know that it is not from firing the gun , it is from closing the bolt on a empty chamber . Like I said a uncocked firing pin has a little end play. Even my custom actions have a little end play when the firing pin is not cocked .

(( To prove me wrong you mark the bolthead, you close the bolt while pulling the trigger and thrusting the bolt forward. I concede. You got me.))

That is not what I'm talking about . A uncocked firing pin , the boit has a little end play and made some rub marks on the front of my bolt is what I have found out .


Art, I agree with you, several others get your point… even our resident Savage Super-Guru agreed with you in post #11. But some will never agree, even when you present concrete evidence. I recommend just letting it lie because the argument of “getting the last word in”, will never end. Be above it. You know what’s happening. And like I said, even though it’s fine as is, if you wish to pull the barrel & take a couple thous. off the breech for piece of mind, go for it. You can’t hurt it. This is, after all, why the Savage Barrel Nut System is so desirable. Replacing & head spacing the barrel takes but minutes!