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Taidog1
05-01-2024, 09:46 AM
Working on scheduling a daylight Coyote hunt out West. My cartridge already chosen. It'll work...close and far.

My friend's 1 and only, long time rifle is a 30-06. It's accurate and he knows how to use it. 150 gr and up, he's well stocked. My question here is this: assuming HE and the rifle are MOA - and they are - can we hand-load a 125 gr bullet and not lose MOA accuracy? Speer & Sierra.

Not asking anyone to guarantee anything with all the many variables. Just asking for first-hand good or bad experience - which bullet - fps - powder preference - etc??

Thanks. Much appreciated.

CFJunkie
05-01-2024, 11:57 AM
Almost impossible to say for certain. The caliber is not the determinant, the particular barrel is.
Some barrels like light bullets and shoot them most accurately.
Others like heavy bullets and they shoot them most accurately.

I have two Savage .308s with 24-inch barrels.
One shoots 155 gr bullets best and the other shoots 175 gr and heavier bullet best.
I would have bet that they would shoot just about the same.

The only way you'll ever really know is to try it with the 125 gr bullets.

My .30-06s like H4350 powder the best, but they also shoot other powders almost as well.
With the scarcity of powder these days, you may be shooting what you can get your hands on.

Fuj'
05-01-2024, 12:21 PM
Easy button for the 06 is the 150 gr class of bullets. Depending on the barrels twist rate,
I would go the opposite direction and investigate the 168's to help in the wind and get
your BC number up a bit.

Blades
05-01-2024, 12:42 PM
Don't know about 125's. IN my model 70 NM 150- 190 gr pills- 4831( imr or h) and Acurrate arms 3100 around 56 gr worked flawlessly out to 600 yards. apx 1/3 moa at 600 yards was typical 10 shot group size when the operator didn't mess up. Lots of newer powders out there now and I do not know how any of those would work.

charlie b
05-01-2024, 08:00 PM
I'd probably use the 155 Hornady ELDM or Berger Hybrid if you can afford them :) The Bergers did a little better in my .308. And they handled wind better.

But, I have never tried the light stuff either. Most who use them are the 100-200yd shooters.

No matter what he uses his shoulder will let him know about it after a few hundred rounds.

Taidog1
05-02-2024, 09:36 AM
Yeah.........a 200 gr would dispatch a Coyote. Just thought a 125 would open up faster than a 150 and still hold onto "some" wind resistance and decent trajectory further out. NOT sure tho and why I've asked. All that plus the 125 TMK and Speer TNT both get good reports. NOT arguing with your wise words gentlemen. He's familiar with the 150's AB, Partition, etc. Just considering COYOTE options and VERY much appreciate your input.

As for round count on a day for Coyotes...don't see that as a problem. :-)

My rifle is avlbl to him but he wants to use his. I understand that.

Cheers.

shoots100
05-04-2024, 10:06 PM
All depends on the barrel twist.
1-10 twist, any 150 Grn and up ballistic tip match bullet will do
SJC

Taidog1
05-05-2024, 08:38 AM
All depends on the barrel twist.
1-10 twist, any 150 Grn and up ballistic tip match bullet will do
SJC

Hey Shoots and everyone else, Thanks....

After a lot of reading and discussions, he's decided to just stay with the 150 gr @~2,950 fps. He and his rifle accuracy are both excellent. While understably way more than needed for Coyote, I applaud his use of one rifle. I envy his KISS rationale. A happy ending.

Now...............I'm going back to the bench to get my rifle / load sorted out. The work never ends. :-)

Cheers!

theloyalsavage
05-05-2024, 04:38 PM
Hey Shoots and everyone else, Thanks....

After a lot of reading and discussions, he's decided to just stay with the 150 gr @~2,950 fps. He and his rifle accuracy are both excellent. While understably way more than needed for Coyote, I applaud his use of one rifle. I envy his KISS rationale. A happy ending.

Now...............I'm going back to the bench to get my rifle / load sorted out. The work never ends. :-)

Cheers!

155 Hornady Amax’s will give you the accuracy AND the expansion you’re looking for in a 30-06.

168 amax’s work well too

Md Wilson
05-06-2024, 06:09 PM
I used a 125 gn Nosler BT outta my Ruger 77 in 30-06. It is my coyote load for out in the AZ High Desert.

Use IMR 4064 and a Winchester LRP. Gives me.690 at 100 yards. But I’ve stretched it out further than that.

Absolutely devastating on the coyotes.


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Nahum
05-23-2024, 08:41 PM
Shot a lot of 125 Sierra in my 06. Groundhogs to 300 were not a problem. IMR4064 & 4895 did just fine.

LDSILLS
05-26-2024, 11:53 AM
I agree with Fuj

NF1E
05-26-2024, 04:18 PM
Seems pretty much any 30 cal barrel will do a good job with 125s. I have enjoyed shooting 110 Sierra hps, 125 Sierra TMK and Speer 125 TNTs, all will do a good job on a coyote in any of my 30-06 or .308 rifles. Whatta Hobby!

theloyalsavage
06-18-2024, 09:17 PM
155 Hornady Amax’s will give you the accuracy AND the expansion you’re looking for in a 30-06.

168 amax’s work well too

We use 168 Amax’s in our Core 30 308 AR10, and 155 Amax’s in a Savage 16 American Classic 308. Very accurate and expansion is good on groundhogs to whitetail.