Hello, Palmaris if you had to use a file my guess is that the royal arms grip is hard plastic.And 2 how do you like it for trigger control?
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Hello, Palmaris if you had to use a file my guess is that the royal arms grip is hard plastic.And 2 how do you like it for trigger control?
Most shooters Ive spoken to Prefer sand bags front and rear to reduce the hard surface bounce off bi-pods and mono-pods unless the ground is soft.
Hello Sir.
I "tuned" that grip to my liking. I would rate that plastic very soft, easy to cut. I used half moon file and sandpaper, finished by bid blasting. Regarding tandem of pistol grip and trigger control-again, I cut that grip a lot to fit to my hand, so feels really good and finger placement on trigger is perfect. Just keep in mind, due to my injury long time age I am short half on index finger, about 1/4", that is reason I have to "massage" grip.
A couple pics from this weekend at my parents ranch in North Texas.
Dad trying out the rifle.
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350 Yard Setup
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Anyone have recommendations for metal targets? Looking for something about 12"x24" that will last.
Here's a hole in a metal brace after a hit at 350 yards.
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Wow!!!
Very nice scene and beautiful target range!!!
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Plenty of good targets out there just google "AR500 targets". I got this one off Amazon and it's great.
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
If you got your barrel replaced with 24" non-fluted, what are your thoughts? I'm thinking about going that route
I like mine non fluted. I asked Savage tech and they said fluting cut wieght a little, mainly for looks. I wanted as stiff as possible since hanging a 10.5" can on barrel. Looks good. Still working on load with suppressor so all I know right now is sub-moa.
The Lupold MK4 20moa rail works with both 8-40 and 6-48 screws, no modifications required.
You can special order 8-40 rails from Seekins.
New to this Forum. I purchased a Savage Stealth 6.5C around the Holidays and was excited to have a low recoil, long-range rifle to manage some Feral hogs and Yotes. The first time out to the range with some factory loads, I was afraid I just dropped a $1000 on the worst shooting gun I own. I could not get a 2" group at 100 yards to save my soul. When I was done I looked over at the guy at the nearest bench and saw he was shooting a Savage Stealth in 338 Lapua. He too was frustrated because his scope was about to fall off because the screws in the base were working loose on every shot. I inspected my gun and when I pressed down on the front of the scope I could see gun oil squeeze out from under the base. I went home and removed the scope and found that I could remove the base screws with my fingers and a torx bit. How this made it out of QC at Savage is beyond me. I cleaned the receiver threads and screws with solvent, applied some Loctite-Blue and re-secured the base. I now have a sub-1/2moa shooter. I have made it through my first round of load development using 100, 120, 130 and 143 grain bullets and four different powders for each. It is more difficult to find a bullet/powder combination that does not shoot well as opposed to one that does. Since H4350 has been declared "EW" (Extinct in the Wild) I had to try available powders. In my first round of development using 130gr Berger VLD-Hunting bullets and Varget I was able to get two consecutive powder graduations that gave me 0.2 and 0.3 MOA at 100yards(pics attached, I hope). My next round will go to 5 shots and varying seating depths. So if you're not getting the accuracy you expect, check your scope base and receiver bolts for torque, appears to be a common issue.
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Was checking my rails again, both 338 and 300 were loose. One was stripped on bolt tip. Found a replacement I had and used it. Interesting, some were torx head and some hex head. Really weird. Need to replace all to standardize for tools. Good advice on Chassis also, found rear was about 25 inch pounds, checked and seems 50-60 is more normal.
I can get .3-.4 (if I'm doing my job) with Berger 130 OTM and H4350 on my 6.5.
I wonder if the oil is a clue on the rail. Really heavy, wonder if keeping locktite from setting. What is a good solvent?
You missed the Dime both times!!!!!!!!!!!!
Some people suggest just rubbing alcohol, but I used my Hoppes Blast and Shine with Acetone and MEK. Be sure to clean the entire area particularly both Male and FM threads, however come back with a quality gun oil on a cloth for the area beneath the base where it touches the receiver but avoid the threaded holes, otherwise rust will set in on the unprotected metal.
Bhowell,
These were 35.8gr and 36.1gr of Varget but only getting around 2600fps. I have another good node around 37.5 gr producing 2715fps. However I am showing really good initial results with ReLoder 16. Using Hornady 143gr ELD-X and 43.3gr of RL16 I was getting 2800fps and was not showing any pressure signs yet, I only stopped because it was beginning to compress the load. I have a series of the Berger 130's with RL16 loaded waiting for some good weather, I expect it to give me around 2900fps at the top end. RL16 seems to produce about 100-200fps more than Varget and IMR 4451 in my other initial test loads. Interestingly enough my H4350 loads gave me good velocity but only mediocre groups and vertical dispersion.
RL-17 worked good for me when I had my 10-T 6.5cm. 42.0 gr @2795 fps. Tried a little higher but started getting case swipes. Grouping was sub MOA. Was looking for RL-16 but finally found 1 lb of H4350 to try. Didn't group well with more powder than RL-17. Ended up selling the rifle and getting a 338LM.
I believe the 110 BA uses a civilian size buffer tube which is actually thicker than a mil spec tube. So if your stock is mil spec, that would explain why it was so hard to put on.
I have a question.
This buffer tube, does it attach to the rifle in the same manner as on the AR-15? If you wanted to put on a real AR-15 buffer tune, would it fit?
I ask because if I buy this rifle, I would like to be able to use a different buffer tube than the one provided with the gun.
Took the Savage from 300-700 yards this weekend ending with 3 consecutive hits at 700 yards. My shooting friend and I took turns shooting as worked out in 100 yard increments. I was shooting my Stealth and he had his Ruger (only have a pic of the Ruger since my phone was on the spotting scope with a phoneskope).
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Target is down there I promise.
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I bought a Stealth about a 3 weeks ago and couldn't believe how hard the buttstock was to move. It appears the buttstock is mil-spec and the tube is commercial. I replaced it with an XLR and sold just the buttstock to a buddy and he said it works perfect on a mil-spec buffer tube. Now you have me curious and will measure the old tube diameter. Savage definitely dropped the ball on the butt stock, the bolt handle and not putting a 20 MOA scope rail. I have changed all three and will finally have some time this coming weekend to test drive her.
My MBA-3's fit just fine, snug but not hard to put on or hard to adjust. Last thing you want is a wiggly stock. The 338 has much larger cheek piece on the factory stock, so I prefer it. The MBA-3's are hard as rock with no soft shoulder pad to absorb recoil. Shot usng 338 with flash suppressor (fits my can to mount suppressot) to get baseline, put suppressor back on real quick, that smarted a bit.
Gong hit in slow motion. Didn't video many of the shots but it's cool to see the vapor trail on this one!
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Just food for thought on the buttstock. I replaced mine with the Luth MBA-3 Carbine buttstock. I didn't have to change or modify anything. Pulled the original one off, and slid the new one on. I still have the advantage of collapsing the buttstock for easier transport
I was finally able to take her out and shoot her today. I had bore sighted her when the scope was mounted and started breaking her in with some cheaper Hornady White Tail which had bad reviews for accuracy but was a lot cheaper. Best I could get was about 1.75 at 100 yards which didn't suprise me with this ammo. So this is where the fun began. Moved out to 200 yards and starting shooting some 147 grain ELD which grouped a lot better. Didn't measure it but was probably just over MOA shooting with a bipod. I am by no means a long range shooter and have only shot 300 yards one time at a silhouette plate with my SBR.
so my buddy says shoot the 10" gong at 600. So I ran it throug a ballistics app, dial the scope and hit 5 for 5 at 600 yards. I was pretty excited at this point as I didn't think I would even hit it let alone 5 for 5. Well, at this point I'm pretty happy and ran it through the ballistics calculator (31.5) for 1K yard 24x 24 silhouette. We didn't even have a spotting scope so my buddy is spotting me with his rifle. I let the first shot fly, poof about 5" low. I aimed 3/4 target and let it fly and I actually hit the dam thing and on the next shot as well. My buddy got behind it and hit it on his second shot and he has never went past 600 before. Shot 3 more at it and went 4 for 6 at 1K which to me was a great day with a brand new rifle. Oh, and it wasn't suppressed with my Crux Ark 30 which this rifle sounds like a dam air gun. I'm hooked on long range shooting for sure!
What distance and elevation? That was cool.
Yes, Howells video. From what I could see there was considerable downward angle.
Anyone used Accurate Mag on the 6.5? Got one in and it does not feed consistantly and scratches the metal really bad on feedlips. Any suggestions?
I'm interested to hear anyone's experience with a Magnetospeed on the Savage Stealth. I'm eying the Magnetospeed V3, but I've read various reports about POI shift and changes to group sizes that result from it hanging on the end of the barrel. Some say there is no change, some say there is a drastic change. It appears to be barrel/gun specific, and that makes sense to me.
Does anyone have any experience with POI shift or group size changes? I'd love to hear your experiences before I make a (relatively) large purchase.
Doesn't change POI. Worked fine for me. Here is a 10 shot group at 200 yards I'm not proud of. I shot with it attached (first few were tight then I just squeezed the rest off). I used my typical 200 yard elevation adjustment. This was the only picture I have from the day I shot with the Magneto V3 attached.
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Finally two weeks ago had a chance to try my Stealth @1000 yards.
We went to Piru lake rifle range.
Started from 500 yards 2 shots-2 hits. 600 yards 5 shot 5 hits. Then I moved to 1000 yards. Shooting was 10 degree slop up, first round was about foot to the right. Check all conditions and local guys told me that there is wind on the top of hill. So entered number (approximately) and after that every single shot was hit. It just become non-changeling LOL
I have my friend as a spotter, so he was confirming hits or misses. At some point I don't believe about hits and shot 2 feet right (didn't let my spotter know I am missing) and right away he told me-miss 2 feet to right. I am completely surprise with rifle/ammo/calculator combo. Bullets were flying as on rails.
Even let my spotter shoot 10 rounds on different distances, telling what to use on reticle, and he was hitting every single time.
Target on 1000 yards were two sizes 24 inches and 18 inches diameter (I think, not sure 100 %).
Here are some pics from range and screen shot from calculator
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That's awesome! Great job Palmaris! That range looks amazing too.
I have taken mine out to 1K yards the last 2 trips and it is a blast. It was a challenge last trip with a 10 to 15 mph cross wind but manage to get some hits on it with the 147 ELD factory Hornady ammo. I jumped off the ledge this week and purchased all the stuff to start reloading and will start working up some loads in the next week or so with the H4350 I found. I love my Creedmoor Stealth!
Suppressor update. Went to Talladega and tested new suppressor (Sig 338 QD). Results were pretty good, all 10 ring at 200. Also tested new creedmoor brand 140 ammo. Shot on par with my handloads. So now back to a good fundation point to refine loads and work on accuracy.
The stock length on my Luth AR MBA-1 with the fixed stock adapter is proving to be a little too long for me. Contacted Drake and they are sending me a replacement buffer Tube, really nice folks. Have a MBA-3 I will use on it and that should put length were I need it for shooting prone.
Accurate Mag test - New Accurate Mag smoothing out, open feed lips up to let round sit higher and smoothed lips as they were scratching brass pretty badly. With some tweeks the magazine looks to be working out pretty well.
Got a chance to shoot steel from 300yards to 840 yards. Stealth shot great loaded with Nosler RDF 140gr with RL-16 powder. Load is running about 2820fps and is very accurate.
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This is the 16" plate at 840 yard. Big splashes in center are my 140 RDF. Smaller splashes on left are my buddy's 107grain 6mm Dasher. The small dot on top right is my 77gr SMK from 20"AR-15
For my left-hand brethren, it looks like a Savage is bringing out a LH 10 and 110 Stealth, including in 6mm Creedmoor. They were showing it off earlier today in a Live FaceBook broadcast from the NRA Annual Meeting.
Lapua Brass test - Loaded 19 rounds of Lapua Brass, full lentgh sized, used Sin clair mandrel to set neck tension. Powder h4350, bullet Berger 130 OTM. Control was my std hand loads with Hornady new brass, h4350 40g, Berger 130 OTM. All shot with Sig suppressor. Berger 5 shot rapid fire to foul barrel. 3 shot .56 at 100 yd.
Lapua results - 39 Gr .48 5 shot 100 yd, 39.5 5 shot 100 yd .58, 40 gr opened up as did the 40.5
Will try upping load to 41 and 41.5. The suppressor seems to have changed the node on the barrel. Will use Magneto Speed to verify FPS when I go next time.
All in all, happy with the Lapua brass.
I'm Phil, new here. I haven't shot mine yet. I got the 338 lapua version. I changed out the muzzle brake (super tight by the way). Trying to find the right stock for it. I think I'm going to put the MDT stock on it.
I have a MDT folding stock adapter for sale. It is for a fixed stock. I think you can use a regular carbine tube as well just use the end plate like on an AR. Its still in the box if anyone is interested.
$110 shipped
Talladega update 6.5 Creedmoor Stealth 24" smooth barrel (all suppressed) - Went real well. Got dope for 200, 300 and 600. Rifle shot in 10 ring at all ranges. Wind was stiff with 7-10 mph left to right. Using GAP in Bushell scope was able to compensate. No issues with scope or rifle. Got weird results from ballistics solver, so established zero with first shots. Load Berger OTM 130, H4350 40gr, Hornady brass. Loaded 20 rounds, similar results using 130 OTM, H4350 39gr and Lapua Brass.
Shot 300 WM Steath with similar results.
Was pleased, made progress on suppressor, wind reading, and consistancy.