question for 338 edge expert

Shot my 338 edge at lunch today for the first time. shout out to Jim at Apache for the workmanship it is great.

shot 6 rounds, 91 gr retumbo with 250 berger hybrid @ 3.79 " oal(.02 off lands) , 1-10 twist 26" and 1" brake

zero pressure signs, nothing on primer, no extractor marks, soft bolt lift ect. Chrony said 2725 FPS

As i'm new to the cartridge, do any of you have any advice or personal experience with a similar recipe? I was planning on adding powder a grain at a time until i hit pressure or a node. then mess with seating depth.

I know 338 cal is a whole different animal thought id ask for some guidance

thanks in advance

Even with a full case of Retumbo or 102gr and a 250gr bullet, you will never see any signs of pressure, although you will be on the north side of 3000 FPS.

Dean

I haven't shot the 250 grain pills out of the edge. I do shoot plenty of the 300 grain though with 92 grains of H-1000 out of a 30" barrel @ 2825FPS.

The most knowledgeable experts that I know of concerning the Edge hang out at http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/ You should be able to find out a lot of info there too.

BT

Just use 338 RUM load data as a baseline, and then just take advantage of the extra case capacity.
if ever you want to belong to an exclusive club, don't forget they 100gr+ of RL17 with Barnes 160gr TTSXs 4000 FPS +, it turns that edge into a Varmint rifle, it comes in handy when you can't decide between the Swift or they Edge.

Dean

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Even with a full case of Retumbo or 102gr and a 250gr bullet, you will never see any signs of pressure, although you will be on the north side of 3000 FPS.

Dean

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Wow I'm really excited, thanks dean. That's why I used slow powder with a light pill figured I would be less like let to hit pressure.

92.5 grains of Retumbo behind a 300 Berger, .050 off


102.5 RL17 behind a Barnes xxx 160 grain

Very accurate and destructive with either bullet.

wow dean and dennis that load sounds like it would be awesome!!thanks alot for the help guys

I think Dennis meant 102.5 of RL17, for those 160gr Barnes not Retumbo.

Dean

Your right Dean, I will change it.

100 gr of powder..... i think im addicted

If you cannot find the 160gr TTSXs the 185gr ones are also a blast, with a little less of RL17 or a full case of RL19.

Dean

awesome!!! you think retumbo is to slow burning for 250 gr and i should go faster burn rate?

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awesome!!! you think retumbo is to slow burning for 250 gr and i should go faster burn rate?

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Yes H1000, IMR7828, or RL25.

Dean

ok i have some H1000 ill try. i like the luxery of putting as much powder as i can cram without having to worry about pressure! H 1000 would hit max presure before compression i would think? possibly slightly higher velocity?

Yes you can go to town with the H1000, with no pressure signs, and yes on the FPS

Dean

Every time I see one of you guys post about that stupid 160gr load I get all excited. lol I've got a box of them to try out just to for the fun of it. lol

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Every time I see one of you guys post about that stupid 160gr load I get all excited. lol I've got a box of them to try out just to for the fun of it. lol

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I can't remember the last time I shot my 22-250 since Dean turned me on to the 338 Edge with the 160's.

I look forward to shooting it. It will destroy our pesty swamp critters down here.

The bad part is I really don't have anything to shoot it at here that I can decimate with it. lol I need prairie dogs, dangit. My buddy wants me to take it deer hunting and only take head shots. Haha

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Every time I see one of you guys post about that stupid 160gr load I get all excited. lol I've got a box of them to try out just to for the fun of it. lol

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Stupid 160gr load, let me tell you after firing a few shots off with that load, you will be on your hands and knees saying "I'm not worthy" LOL

Dean

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s...psde2885e4.jpg
shot # 11,12,13 from the new barrel @500 yards..... the can is for reference its not covering up fliers ;)

95gr retumbo @ 3.795" i think there is some potential here!!

I may have missed it but what brand barrel was it that Jim cambered for you? Is this one of the new X-Caliber barrels? 10 twist I imagine. What length? brake? How about a pic of the gun? How many grooves in the barrel?

Good shooting. Got to love the Edge! I got a 30" Pac-Nor on mine with their 3 groove and love it!

BT

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s...psc78fa3d1.jpg

yep its an xcaliber! 26" of rifling with a 1" brake. and varmint contour 10 twist, put the gun together for 925$ (not counting scope) its going to be my new baby i think

I've got one too, that I'm trying to get together. Mine is a 30" though. :devilish:

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Stupid 160gr load, let me tell you after firing a few shots off with that load, you will be on your hands and knees saying "I'm not worthy" LOL

Dean

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Hah, I have no doubt. I can't wait.

Nice Rig, the Purple is a little to Gay for me, but still nice Rig, LOL

Dean

PS: The RUM case can hold 100+ grains of powder, use all of it.

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Nice Rig, the Purple is a little to Gay for me, but still nice Rig, LOL

Dean

PS: The RUM case can hold 100+ grains of powder, use all of it.

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It's not purple it's "lavender" LOL

Actually it's pepper laminate Boyd's, black and grey must be the lighting.

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Originally Posted by scope eye

Even with a full case of Retumbo or 102gr and a 250gr bullet, you will never see any signs of pressure, although you will be on the north side of 3000 FPS.

Dean

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Hit 3003 fps with 97 gr retumbo..... That's 5000 ft lbs. not compressed and no pressure... Still room . I dont even know what to think

Jim did two for me, a 26" shilen bull is shooting 1/8 moa +/- and a 24" green mountain 24" around 1/4" moa but load development is not final yet, elk season interrupted and it and it has not resumed yet.
I got 3K with sierra 250 out of my "other" 24" with h1000 so retumbo and a longer barrel should get you well above that.

I got the opportunity to try out one of the 160gr ttsx's/102gr Rl17 loads this weekend on a hunt. Took an Axis Deer with a shot thru the ribs, no tracking needed!! Thanks again Dean.

My 250gr berger load is is running an average of 3092fps with 98gr of H-1000.

You have just joined an exclusive club, we meet at the Y on Wednesday at 7:30 bring doughnuts. LOL

Dean

PS: Mazel tov on the Deer.

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The bad part is I really don't have anything to shoot it at here that I can decimate with it. lol I need prairie dogs, dangit. My buddy wants me to take it deer hunting and only take head shots. Haha

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I have used mine dear hunting the last four years and have not lost a single scrap of meat.

Just put it threw there ribs, It'll do the job nicely. Shoulder shot could get messy but lung shot is no problem.