260 Long Range Shots- With Video

Milk jug at 1,428 yards. Fired 6 shots. 2 hit jug, another hit steel target that was behind jug (the one next to me in the pic). Not to shabby for the first time at that distance

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This is my proudest shot so far. Shot in same area but on a different day then the milk jug

1 lbs IMR powder container at 1,440 yards. The beer can in bottom pic is for size comparison.

Below is a video of the 1,440 yard shot.

http://i1346.photobucket.com/albums/...psm7k5hq9q.mp4

^^^video^^^

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Doe kill for this years rifle season. Shot on November 28 2015 at 1,121 yards

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Copied and pasted from old thread. I re-uploaded videoclip hoping it may work now. Used other link. If it doesn't work, I tried lol

Link is clickable, but when you get the to page, it says the video has been renamed or deleted by its owner.

Regardless, great shooting. :)

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Link is clickable, but when you get the to page, it says the video has been renamed or deleted by its owner.

Regardless, great shooting. :)

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Thank you, I'll make a YouTube page and link that at some point to this thread.

Hey you hit that deer so hard you knocked of the antlers!!

I actually saw a nice buck in that area but couldn't get a reliable range on it. Was between 915-1050 yards. So I didn't even attempt a shot. This deer I had a bait pile that I shot at. Bought a doe tag specifically for this shot. I did have a buck tag tho if he'd come where I could range him.

Believe me that 260 wasn't knocking anything off a deer at that range.

I'm just pulling your chain. It's nice to see others excited about shooting as much as I am. Would like to see that video too!

That element chassis...been eyeballing one of those for a while now.

Good shooting!

Yes, nice shooting. Is it a doe or a small buck, also where was it hit?

Actually Mcree chasis. Doe fawn. That's why it's so small lol hit through the heart but took a couple shots. My wind wasn't cooperating with me. I even shot prior to hunting. Wish I had my lapua. Was not impressed with the hole/knockdown power. The fact it hit the heart was a godsend. Don't think it woulda died otherwise. I can promise I will be using a bigger gun next time at that range

I was using 142 smk bullets. They worked awesome from 600-800 yds on deer. But at this range there basically useless. Crunched numbers after and found out I hit with under 500 lbs of knock down power. Lesson learned

I'll post a pic of the heart later

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Actually Mcree chasis. Doe fawn. That's why it's so small lol hit through the heart but took a couple shots. My wind wasn't cooperating with me. I even shot prior to hunting. Wish I had my lapua. We not impressed with the hole/knockdown power. The fact it hit the heart was a godsend. Don't think it woulda died otherwise. I can promise I will be using a bigger gun next time at that range

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Well get used to the idea that regardless of cartridge, its not always bang flop.
If your serious about hunting this way, consider using the gun you have untill youve aquired other
equiptment, which can actually be more essential than the gun for this type hunting.
Also you should hunt with a buddy, who can help keep things sorted out when all dosent go as well as youd like.
Ive watched them get hit with 300 gr 338s in a good spot and never even flinch. Just walk off as though not touched.
Now they didnt walk all that far before folding up dead, maybe 100 feet. But would a lone hunter be able to observe all that?
Or would he have questioned wether he had even hit it? Ive also seen them get back on their feet after being pronounced dead
and the shooter leave to go fetch them. Again just stumble a short distance before piling up for good. But far enough to cause
panic when you arrive and its gone. Especially if its now dark, and by tomorrow the coyotes might have gotten to it first.
Consider placing milk jugs at various locations at the place you hunted. Envision what a deer might do if hit and runs off
say on an angle, or up, down, or across the hill he is standing on. Could you stay on a running deer with your setup?
So that when it stops even way over there, your ready for a follow up shot say right now? In about a minit or less your buddy
could advise you of the new distance, but would you be ready? Youve proven that you can do it, but your questioning the results.
A bigger hammer wont change that.

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I agree yobuck. I need a spotter lol. I'm making a shooting loft this year to shoot this area. My own elevated shoot house to shoot to 1100 yards. Won't be as far back as I shot this deer from but will give me a great vantage point to hunt/practice from

I shot a deer at 1000 as well this year with my lapua. Put a whole the size of a softball in the deer. Easy tracking for the short distance it went. Huge difference in terminal damage. Shot was just behind shoulder/above heart on that deer

Since you own the Lapua, by all means use it. I wasent aware you had that. Lots of us can lay down prone with a bipod and
amaze ourselves shooting at various type targets at considerable distances. But the location we shoot from is selected, the target location
is selected, and even the weather conditions we shoot in are selected. None of that is apt to be true when hunting.
So cheat whenever its possible to improve your performance. Pride should take a back seat when shooting at live targets.
The shooting shack is a great idea if you can build one where you hunt. It will also allow for hunting in poor weather conditions
by keeping the equiptment dry. Definatly build a shooting bench or incorporate one into the design of the shack.
Consider having the front lift up and remain up with some type of a prop arraingment. Except for the bottom part which could serve
as the bench. Windows fog up unless their insulated glass. The propped section also serves now as a roof to help keep rain further away
from you and the equiptment. Glasses, glasses, glasses, big tripod mounted glasses, are your most important item of equiptment.
Without them your driving without headlights. A spotting scope is simply ok, and that includes $2000 ones. Close one eye and walk around for an hour
to get the (picture). I could email you some pictures of what im talking about.

Mine will be prone shooting. Mostly target during summer. My lapua is being rebarreled right now. There's a thread in my page for that if your interested. I put a lot of time and dedication into making this shot and chose to push forward with the 260 when my lapua failed me. If I hadn't committed myself I would probably not have attempted this.

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I'll post a pic of the heart later

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One of the tastiest parts.

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Actually Mcree chasis. Doe fawn. That's why it's so small lol hit through the heart but took a couple shots. My wind wasn't cooperating with me. I even shot prior to hunting. Wish I had my lapua. Was not impressed with the hole/knockdown power. The fact it hit the heart was a godsend. Don't think it woulda died otherwise. I can promise I will be using a bigger gun next time at that range

I was using 142 smk bullets. They worked awesome from 600-800 yds on deer. But at this range there basically useless. Crunched numbers after and found out I hit with under 500 lbs of knock down power. Lesson learned

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Good deal. Just ordered the Element today.

I love chasis. I have two mcrees and the ba chasis for savage. I don't know if savage makes this model or contracts it out. I can tell you the Mcree is a better built system and way more versatile for qd sling mounts etc. If your ordering from xlr, get the folding stock if they make one. Well worth the money. Mcrees locks while folded but wouldn't bother me if it didn't. I fold it for measuring chamber for oal and cleaning. Also fold to look down barrel for bore sighting scope. My one mcree doesn't have folding stock but I use a bore snake generally to clean that rifle. The ba has a magpul prs buttstock. Easily collapses the comb but looking at the design of it I can't imagine it will stand up to up/down movement as many times as I would fold my mcrees. Time will tell on that though

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One of the tastiest parts.

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Agreed. I did eat this one. Bullet made a clean pass through with no fragmentation

The 260 with a berger vld hunting bullet might give you a little more expansion at long range. With my load I am around 640 ft-lbs of energy at your range. What is your load and ftps?

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The 260 with a berger vld hunting bullet might give you a little more expansion at long range. With my load I am around 640 ft-lbs of energy at your range. What is your load and ftps?

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My data shows 560 lbs knockdown.

142 SMK .010 off lands
42.5 gr H4350
CCI BR 2
Lapua case trimmed to 2.025
Annealed every firing
2835 fps

Lee collet die
Forester bench rest seater

Shot several 3 shot groups the other day at 100 yards while testing a scope. They measured .267", .301", .278". My groups during load testing were
300 yds: .37" (.12moa) - 3 shots
600 yds: 2.64" (.44 moa) - 5 shots

Have shot several groups at 300 that could be covered with a dime. I won't switch this load as I plan on running it for comps this summer and would like to practice etc. My lapua will be my primary long range hunting rifle, when I get it back. That's got 1,555 lbs of punch at that range.

Why modify the shovel when you have a bulldozer along side it lol

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142 SMK .010 off lands
42.5 gr H4350
CCI BR 2
Lapua case trimmed to 2.025
Annealed every firing
2835 fps

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Not to hijack, but:

I just picked up 4K of the BR2's for $126. Been using the CCI 200's and getting a pretty wild ES. Have you compared the ES of your groups using the BR2's vs 200's? I'm hoping they prove to be more consistent, and if not I can sell them and make money.

I've been getting Sub 10 ES/SD's with CCI200's in my 243. Are you sure it's the primers and not another source in your loading?

I have tested them In a 308 barrel I used to have. I shot at 300 yards. Never noticed a difference. Don't remember the chrono results, don't think I wrote them down because it was a wash. My 260 shoots a hair better than the 308 did but we're talking still under .5 moa. So I haven't tested in this gun. I honestly ordered them during the crisis a few years ago when you couldn't find anything. I got 5000 cci 200 primers during that time and then received my br2's. Think I use them just for the warm fuzzy feeling, idk.

Annealing however made a big difference in that gun. Shot 2, 5 shot groups and the annealed shot ES of 18 fps vs 38 fps for not annealed. Also shot 1.5" group annealed and about 2" not.

its the B stamped in the cup that makes the BR-2s better.

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I've been getting Sub 10 ES/SD's with CCI200's in my 243. Are you sure it's the primers and not another source in your loading?

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Not at all. I fl size after every firing using a lee die. Trim and clean in ultrasonic, weigh each charge, and consistent seating depth. The chrony I'm using is a range freebie, a cheap caldwell I believe. The only variable I'm aware of is neck tension. I do notice inconsistencies from time to time in the amount of feedback I get from the press when seating bullets. Could be the whole problem.

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its the B stamped in the cup that makes the BR-2s better.

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I've heard that :)

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Not at all. I fl size after every firing using a lee die. Trim and clean in ultrasonic, weigh each charge, and consistent seating depth. The chrony I'm using is a range freebie, a cheap caldwell I believe. The only variable I'm aware of is neck tension. I do notice inconsistencies from time to time in the amount of feedback I get from the press when seating bullets. Could be the whole problem.

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The inconsistent neck tension could be brass that's work hardened. This is where annealing comes in. How many rounds on brass? What does it group like? If it shoots well the cheapy chrono could be reading incorrect

Forgive me, I'm getting two lots of cases mixed up.

The cases I'm noticing a high ES on are probably on their 4th or 5th firing, without annealing, and give me very consistent feedback from the ram. If I had to guess, I would say that neck tension is very consistent from case to case after fl sizing. They group extremely well when I do my part, but showed about 100 fps ES from the first to last (third) shot in the group. ES for the entire session of 36 rds was 187 fps, and std deviation of 47.14. If the chrono is correct, this is no big deal at 100 yds, but potentially catastrophic at 1K yds.

I think I need to use a decent chrony before I go changing things.

with an SD of 47fps and an ES of 187fps its not the primers...you have some other issues going on...if your shooting LC brass id suggest you start there...anneal your brass and check the internal case capacity of all your brass and i bet you cut 160fps off your current ESs.

That would be the first thing I would do. If your weighing charges, not throwing them I can't imagine it would be that far off . The other thing I'd watch is you barrel heat. If you really beat it up it could cause pressure to rise. You notice the fps climbing every shot generally. Most Reloader powders as well as IMR 4064 are some temp sensitive ones that come to mind

LR beat me to the punch on response. My first sentence refers to chrony. Try that before switching anything

Well would leaving a round chambered in a heated barrel for a period of time
show the same results as those being fired in rapid succession?
Knowing all this im wondering why more 1000 yd target shooters dont gamble
on wind changes and let the barrel cool between shots. Rather than machine gun
10 rounds down range in under a minit as many of them do.

I single load right before I take my shot, will definitely check case capacity if problems persist after verifying mv with a good chrony. Thanks for the tips gents.

Double post.

I just put together a 260 Rem using a Shilen chrome moly barrel in 8 twist. I hope I can get mine to shoot as good as yours. :thumb:

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I actually saw a nice buck in that area but couldn't get a reliable range on it. Was between 915-1050 yards. So I didn't even attempt a shot. This deer I had a bait pile that I shot at. Bought a doe tag specifically for this shot. I did have a buck tag tho if he'd come where I could range him.

Believe me that 260 wasn't knocking anything off a deer at that range.

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Nice shooting, where the heck in MI can one see/hunt 1000 yards out?

My family owns a Christmas tree farm. This particular area is 480 acres. I'll post some pics of the area I shot in. I took several pics that day of the shot location. We have a garage that houses some equipment and that is overlooking an 1100 yards stretch of field. This garage is where I'm building a shooting port from for hunting and LR shooting. This field is about 300 yards wide, so a good coverage area.

I took a pic from where I shot which was behind this garage laying in my uncles yard. Nice thing is this location is 5 miles from my house. The shot on the 4064 jug was from my sisters property shooting across 2 others people property (yes I got permission) and back onto the tree farm.

I'm also going to work on the YouTube video this weekend and see if I can't get that working

These 2 pics are from the shooting position.


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Bait pile is against the far hardwoods tree line

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This pic is from the bait pile looking back at the garage in the pics above

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Another from bail pile with my phone zoomed in

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Just tried the YouTube thing. I have a YouTube account but can't seem to upload. I click upload and "upload as" box pops up requiring me to enter first and last name etc. but will not allow me to type in that box. Then I click on create channel and it requires me to fill in those boxes that it won't let me fill in......

Why couldnt you just raise the door on the end of the building and lay prone in the bed of a pickup rather than build a shooting shack?

The first two photos are of the side I was shooting towards. Last two are the back side of that garage. This is Proly irrelevant to your question but just trying to confirm angle. The back door has rowed Christmas trees planted about 30 ft from it. Laying anywhere in the back and those trees block everything.

I have been shooting from areas around the garage for about 5 years. We have a deck inside for lumber on top. I'm cleaning a part of this out and cutting a hole in the steel. Of course I'll have a windowed area or something to make it look good and keep closed off when not in use. This will give me an elevated shooting position about 10 feet high that several shooters can shoot from

You also can't tell from the pics but my uncles house is 50 yards directly left of where I shot from. They were nice enough to put up with the shooting for this kill but Proly wouldn't like me shooting consistently from his yard.

Sounds like alot of trouble to go thru for the amount of shooting you might do.
I have friends in KS who hunt places they dont own but have permission. The land is fairly flat so
they cant lay prone due to high grass and such. So they simply stand in the pickup bed
and put sandbags on the roof or on the hood. I see those trees your referring to, but if you park
close you can shoot between them.

Op, I like it,
Maybe you could do an indoor raised platform inside the metal garage with a port looking out the back.

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Op, I like it,
Maybe you could do an indoor raised platform inside the metal garage with a port looking out the back.

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That's exactly what I'm doing.

The end of this field is an area we call buck alley. Saw several shooters while attempting my doe kill here.I want to LR hunt there during November deer season. Hunting from a pickup in mi is a no no. So that will not work. Trust me yobuck if you saw this field you'd agree that this garage setup is the ideal thing. Inside a already built structure, out of the elements. Elevated at least 10 ft with the ability to shoot 1100 long and 300 to 500 yards wide. I will be using the area as I do know for my 6 steel plates. I can drop them anywhere in that field area and engage them from this garage. Which will give me the experience for shooting and learning the ranges for hunting.

Right now because of the trees I have to move to different spots by the garage to see different distances. I shoot to 500 in on spot, 600 to 950 in another and 1000+ from another. There are 7 of us who shoot regularly in the summer time here. But we always go out with 2-3 Guys and my elevated area will conform to that amount.

good deal,
check out hammer's post, I luv the sound deadening he has done.

http://www.savageshooters.com/showth...ll=1#post68772

Hafejd, you're a blessed man. That's a really cool setup.

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good deal,
check out hammer's post, I luv the sound deadening he has done.

http://www.savageshooters.com/showth...ll=1#post68772

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I drooled a little bit....that's an awesome setup but unfortunately don't have the range out the door of my house to do that. I'm hoping someday to have a 300 yard range for load testing out my back door but I know it will not be that elaborate. I consider what I have available to be substantial to what is available to many others. And yes barrel Nut I am blessed to have this. And have it 5 min away, on all my families private land