Where to buy an action?

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02-01-2022, 01:16 PM
Newtosavage

Where to buy an action?

I figured by now I would have seen one on the classifieds, but no such luck. Seems like folks aren't parting with their actions these days.

So I'm wondering where else to look for just a regular bottom bolt release 4.4", .308 bolt fact short action. I'm seriously thinking about just buying a 110 XP package just for the action and stock, but I hate to mess with having to sell the barrel and package scope just to get an action and stock.

Any ideas?

Northland Shooting Supply?

What about this "JAOutdoors" that I keep pulling up? Are they legit?

Surely I can find a bare action for under $400 these days, right?
02-01-2022, 01:51 PM
South Prairie jim

I may get flamed for saying …Any Remington 700 or clone will be light years ahead of a Savage action, especially when you consider the aftermarket support.
02-01-2022, 02:05 PM
Newtosavage

Now when you already have a Savage thread barrel that you really like and you just want to use it to build a rifle.
02-01-2022, 09:27 PM
gkainz

I bought one from JA Outdoors a while back. Nice guy, answered questions for me after the sale. Legit business.
Greg
02-01-2022, 09:29 PM
gkainz

Quote:

Originally Posted by Newtosavage

Now when you already have a Savage thread barrel that you really like and you just want to use it to build a rifle.

I took it one step further back.
“When you end up with ammo and components from a garage sale for a caliber you don’t have a gun for…” start buying parts until you have enough to put together a rifle in that caliber!”
02-01-2022, 09:40 PM
Balvar24

Quote:

Originally Posted by gkainz

I took it one step further back.
“When you end up with ammo and components from a garage sale for a caliber you don’t have a gun for…” start buying parts until you have enough to put together a rifle in that caliber!”

Heh. I've been hanging on to some stray .222 for this reason.
02-01-2022, 09:51 PM
Dave Hoback

Or maybe you just really LIKE Savage.... Ya know? Some of us just DO.
02-01-2022, 10:32 PM
charlie b

I'd look around pawn shops and such for used rifles as donors. The 'off' calibers are sometimes even a bit less, even these days.
02-02-2022, 12:50 AM
Dave Hoback

Don’t forget Gunbroker. That is where I purchased my last model 10 as a donor rifle. Picked up a low use 10, Accutrigger in 243Win, with a JUNIOR black/synthetic stock for $270 I believe it was. Stripped it to bare Action and proceeded with my build. Still the one I use now, rebarreled to 260 Rem. Ended up giving the 243 barrel & synthetic stock to two members here. Another plus. Got what I needed at a great price and was able to help out two other members here.
02-02-2022, 01:19 AM
Dave Hoback

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/922942140

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/922981761

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/922900434

Can find ‘em still. Although prices have gone up still good deal out there. Sometimes it requires patience & dedication. (Hawk-eyeing your bid)
02-02-2022, 01:33 AM
Newtosavage

Quote:

Originally Posted by gkainz

I bought one from JA Outdoors a while back. Nice guy, answered questions for me after the sale. Legit business.
Greg

Cool. Thanks.
02-02-2022, 01:34 AM
Newtosavage

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Hoback

Or maybe you just really LIKE Savage.... Ya know? Some of us just DO.

Guilty. Easy to work on and I love the Accutrigger.
02-02-2022, 06:01 AM
Dave Hoback

I do as well partner. I love working them over giving amazing trigger pull. That’s why I do them for free for members.
02-02-2022, 10:44 AM
charlie b

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Hoback

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/922942140

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/922981761

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/922900434

Can find ‘em still. Although prices have gone up still good deal out there. Sometimes it requires patience & dedication. (Hawk-eyeing your bid)

First one listed is interesting. The pawn shop has no idea what they are listing. They call it a semi-auto and don't list caliber up front (as if not important maybe?) and then point out the level, as if that is important. And the scope mount is called a rack.

Seems like a decent deal for a .308
02-02-2022, 11:20 AM
South Prairie jim

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Hoback

Or maybe you just really LIKE Savage.... Ya know? Some of us just DO.

I own Savage rifles as well and if I knew how to post a picture I would, I also know that there is a limit to where a Savage will take you in competition where a barrel is a disposable item, even the stainless fluted barrel off one of mine I sold for a hundred bucks because that’s all anyone was willing to pay.
here’s a question’ if accutriggers were so great then why are people always replacing them?
02-02-2022, 02:15 PM
Newtosavage

Found a 110 "SR" with a fluted, threaded 24" 6.5 CM barrel and Vortex Diamondback scope locally for $599 today, so I bought it. They forgot to raise the price on those and it was the display model. Saved me about $50. Now to break it apart this evening. Anyone wanting a 24" fluted, threaded heavy sporter in 6.5 CM, send me a message. I will list it in the classifieds this evening. Same for the scope.

Thanks to all who replied.

Oh, and South Prairie Jim, I don't replace my accutriggers. But then all my rifles are hunting rifles. Quite honestly, I love them. So does my son. There is a reason they were copied by every single other major manufacturer.
02-02-2022, 02:34 PM
Dave Hoback

Quote:

Originally Posted by South Prairie jim

I own Savage rifles as well and if I knew how to post a picture I would, I also know that there is a limit to where a Savage will take you in competition where a barrel is a disposable item, even the stainless fluted barrel off one of mine I sold for a hundred bucks because that’s all anyone was willing to pay.
here’s a question’ if accutriggers were so great then why are people always replacing them?

I don’t care what “people” do. I simply like them myself. “Most” do what the Inter-MA-webs tell them to do. Most shooters see So & So well known Forum guy or Professional Competitor replaced such & such a part, and they want the SAME parts. (I’m not saying you do any of this, just that it does happen.)

Besides that, TRIGGERS have for ever been the thing shooters believe they need to replace, and especially to make LIGHT. I felt the same thing as a younger adult. But I didn’t have the $150, $200, $300+ to spend on aftermarket triggers for my firearms then. So very early on, I learned to modify triggers, PROPERLY! And then building 1911’s honed this skill to a fine edge. This is because ALL aftermarket 1911 triggers require being set up(Fitted)before install. There are no “drop in” 1911 triggers. At least not then. And I STILL wouldn’t use anything “drop in” for a 1911. Fitted parts only.

I’ve never said my worked over Accutriggers & 3-Screws are BETTER than any other Aftermarket trigger. Only that I can make them very nice, and very close, AT LEAST, to the Aftermarket options. And at almost NO extra cost.
02-02-2022, 03:08 PM
Newtosavage

I know this is off topic but I started the thread so I don't mind. :D

Dave, do you remove the blade from our Accutriggers or leave them in? I have no intention of modifying mine whatsoever (again, all my rifles are hunting rifles) but I'm curious.
02-02-2022, 05:52 PM
Dave Hoback

I leave it, BIG fan of Safe Action Triggers. I use a lighter spring for the blade, and a completely different trigger spring. Also dress the Trigger/Sear surfaces to perfect FLAT with my Ceramic water stones, & polish up to 6000grit. Same stones I use to sharpen the custom knives I make. I make Titanium washers & use them on the sides of the trigger to remove any side play. Finally, I turn down a portion of a 3/4” round head- set screw, 10-24. This is the thread size for the hole where the stock trigger spring goes. I use the set screw with the new spring over it, and adjust the screw to act as overtravel stop. Trigger is light, smooth as silk & breaks like an ice cycle over the fence railing! I do 3-screw triggers as well and make new bar springs of lighter gauge spring steel wire.
02-02-2022, 06:05 PM
Newtosavage

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Hoback

I leave it, BIG fan of Safe Action Triggers. I use a lighter spring for the blade, and a completely different trigger spring. Also dress the Trigger/Sear surfaces to perfect FLAT with my Ceramic water stones, & polish up to 6000grit. Same stones I use to sharpen the custom knives I make. I make Titanium washers & use them on the sides of the trigger to remove any side play. Finally, I turn down a portion of a 3/4” round head set screw, 10-24. This is the thread size for the hole where the stock trigger spring goes. I use the set screw with the new spring over it, and adjust the screw to act as overtravel stop. Trigger is light, smooth as silk & breaks like an ice cycle over the fence railing! I do 3-screw triggers as well and make new bar springs of lighter gauge spring steel wire.

That sounds great Dave. The overtravel setting is something I may be interested in someday. But again, mine are just field hunting rifles, well used if I'm lucky.
02-02-2022, 06:14 PM
South Prairie jim

Well thanks for not flaming me too bad fellas’ much appreciated and like I said we have a few Savage rifles and they shoot really well.

Suppose if more guys could do quality trigger work like Dave they wouldn’t replace them.
02-02-2022, 06:24 PM
Dave Hoback

Nah... people still would, LOL. So many of us just can’t help buying the NEW, SHINY TOYS! Hell, I’m even guilty of it at times.
02-03-2022, 12:57 PM
Newtosavage

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Hoback

Nah... people still would, LOL. So many of us just can’t help buying the NEW, SHINY TOYS! Hell, I’m even guilty of it at times.

Yup.

Out of curiosity, I dialed back the spring on the accutrigger for the rifle I bought yesterday, and it was breaking clean as a whistle at 14 oz. ! LOL Way too light for me, but it's nice to know that option exists if I ever want it. I dialed it back up to 2.5 lbs. which is where I set all my hunting triggers.

Like I said, I love them. No complaints here at all.
02-03-2022, 01:53 PM
Dave Hoback

14oz eh? You got a super light one! That’s lighter than even the Red Bladed Target Accutrigger everyone talks about!

You’re right though. I’m incomplete agreement. Shunting rifle shouldn’t be even close to 1lb! And forget it for defensive purpose guns! When I first started doing triggers, I messed with them ALL! I worked the triggers on my Glocks, CZ, HK... EVERY AR I’ve built.. it just never ended! But I got to a point where LIGHT was not what I wanted in a Defensive Pistol or Rifle. But SMOOTH, NO CREEP or OVERTRAVEL? Now THOSE are a good recipe for EVERY firearm’s trigger! I like pistols & ARs around 4-5ibs.
02-04-2022, 02:28 PM
Newtosavage

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Hoback

14oz eh? You got a super light one! That’s lighter than even the Red Bladed Target Accutrigger everyone talks about!

You’re right though. I’m incomplete agreement. Shunting rifle shouldn’t be even close to 1lb! And forget it for defensive purpose guns! When I first started doing triggers, I messed with them ALL! I worked the triggers on my Glocks, CZ, HK... EVERY AR I’ve built.. it just never ended! But I got to a point where LIGHT was not what I wanted in a Defensive Pistol or Rifle. But SMOOTH, NO CREEP or OVERTRAVEL? Now THOSE are a good recipe for EVERY firearm’s trigger! I like pistols & ARs around 4-5ibs.

I learned to work on the Ruger trigger and once had a Ruger muzzleloader with their newest trigger. I got that thing to 2 lbs. and a perfect break. Aside from my accutriggers, it was the best trigger I had ever shot. On a muzzleloader no less. LOL Guess it worked because the last deer I took with it was a doe at 143 yards and you couldn't have placed that bullet any better.

Getting back to finding an action, I have my semi-custom 7mm-08 barrel (stainless Shaw cut to 20" and fluted) screwed on that action and dropped in that "city camo" (what I call it) stock. Damn that thing is slick. Whole rifle (without scope and rings) weighs just 5 lbs. 15 oz. No kidding. With the scope mounted it will be 6 lbs. 14 oz. Perfect for a mule deer rifle.

Wasn't sure how I'd feel about that stainless barrel on the black action, but it actually looks pretty good in that camo stock. Can't wait to get out and shoot it later today.

If I can get even $200 out of that barrel and scope, I'll have $450 in a brand new action and accufit stock. Can't beat that with a stick.
02-04-2022, 09:05 PM
Iowa Fox

Quote:

Originally Posted by Newtosavage

I know this is off topic but I started the thread so I don't mind. :D

Dave, do you remove the blade from our Accutriggers or leave them in? I have no intention of modifying mine whatsoever (again, all my rifles are hunting rifles) but I'm curious.

I pin mine back if shooting off the bench. If they go out in the field they get unpinned.
02-05-2022, 03:09 PM
Dave Hoback

You Pin it back? Hmm. Seems like this could hinder bench shooting. Can you post a pic? I mean, what do you use? I’m envisioning like a rubberband around the blade & trigger shoe. Which to me, would be a nuisance not allowing mating of trigger face & pad of index finger.

The way I set up my Accutriggers, the blade does not present and discernible extra weight. And to me, is reminiscent of a 2-stage. When I depress the safety blade, it’s almost like a “keep” for my finger. I could hold it there easily for as long as needed. From there, it’s just that hint more of pressure & the Sear drops. It’s very predictable; like a proper 2-stage. But I know, not everyone likes 2-stage triggers, so there is that. In which case I’d recommend an aftermarket, or I can work an Accutrigger in the same way I always do, but simply remove the blade for those who prefer 1-stage. But I do think the 3-screw is a fantastic 1-stage trigger. Having that Sear engagement makes it very, very nice. Honestly, a cell worked 3-screw trigger is to me, every bit as good as an aftermarket. The way I set the up anyway.
02-10-2022, 08:52 PM
Newtosavage

Well, that worked out pretty well. Paid $650 (including tax) for the XP package, and sold the barrel and scope for $320 just now, so I have $330 in a brand new action and stock. I would have paid $100 for the stock, so that's like getting a brand new action for $230. Can't beat that with a stick!
02-10-2022, 09:07 PM
alex.ink38

Congrats, looks like you got through with decent deal. Here is the link to an active listing on GB, in case anyone else is looking:

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/923874133
02-12-2022, 07:41 PM
KMW1954

Quote:

Originally Posted by Newtosavage

I figured by now I would have seen one on the classifieds, but no such luck. Seems like folks aren't parting with their actions these days.

So I'm wondering where else to look for just a regular bottom bolt release 4.4", .308 bolt fact short action.

Any ideas?

Seems every gun forum I belong to has a classified section, Buy, Sell, Trade.

Last summer I placed a Wanted to Buy in all the forums I belong to. Explaining exactly what I was looking for and a ballpark of what I wanted to spend. I soon received a response from a member that had a Model 11 DBM Bottom Bolt Release barreled receiver. He had no history of the gun or the barrel other than a customer brought it in with a broken stock. He offered the whole thing to me, including the broken stock, for $150.00 shipped to my FFL.

It now has a Boyds At-One stock and is awaiting a 6mm BR Norma barrel.

So you may want to try that avenue to find what you need.
02-12-2022, 09:47 PM
Newtosavage

Quote:

Originally Posted by KMW1954

Seems every gun forum I belong to has a classified section, Buy, Sell, Trade.

Last summer I placed a Wanted to Buy in all the forums I belong to. Explaining exactly what I was looking for and a ballpark of what I wanted to spend. I soon received a response from a member that had a Model 11 DBM Bottom Bolt Release barreled receiver. He had no history of the gun or the barrel other than a customer brought it in with a broken stock. He offered the whole thing to me, including the broken stock, for $150.00 shipped to my FFL.

It now has a Boyds At-One stock and is awaiting a 6mm BR Norma barrel.

So you may want to try that avenue to find what you need.

Thanks. I did that first, and only went to buy the new package after striking out. I'm happy with my decision. I have a brand new action and stock for $350 out of my pocket. And the stock is factory camo and has the right barrel channel for my aftermarket barrel. Couldn't be happier to be honest.
08-31-2022, 05:31 AM
AZ_GUN_NUT

Personally... I love the Pre-Accutrigger rifles. I find the stock 4 screw triggers, (when you can find them), do an amazing job when setup properly.
Yes I've owned Accutrigger rifles... just don't care for them. But then I'm an old fart and set in my ways. LOL
08-31-2022, 09:54 PM
charlie b

I guess you could say that's the same reason I like Accutriggers. Grew up with 2 stage military triggers. The feel of the blade to me is like the the 2 stage.
09-01-2022, 09:32 AM
Dave Hoback

I agree Charlie. The Accutrigger is very 2-Stage-ish feel. I like that little take up, like your finger resting on a shelf. It feels like better control to me.