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is the sss competition trigger really worth...
...all the hassle of getting one? I've used up all my cell minutes listening to a busy signal for the past three days trying to get a hold of sharpshooter supply. And given the fact that the other three orders I've placed with them have yet to be filled, I'd hate to finally get a hold of them only to find out they won't have any in stock for another month(which in SSS speak means three months). I'm all about waiting for a quality stock or action truing, but for a trigger?
I can go on midwayusa.com and add a rifle basix trigger to my cart and have it at my door by Saturday.
I've heard only good things about them both although the nod tends to go to SSS. But its going on a basically factory gun and all I'm looking for is a trigger that doesn't have the problems that the accutrigger is known for(and that I'm experiencing). I think either trigger will do the job but there's gotta be a reason why people go through the hassle with SSS - I just don't know what that reason is...
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If you do not care to get it from SSS, you can also get it from Brownells...
http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=7...TITION_TRIGGER
IMHO, the best trigger for a Savage rifle. Nice crisp let off. Well made, fully adjustable from 2.5# down to 12 ounces (mine is running at 10 ounces after many years of competition service). Easy to install and set up.
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They are the best drop in trigger. All others are just revamped factoy designs while the SSS competition trigger is a completely different and better design. Once set and installed, which is very easy to do, mine has been very reliable. I have literally thousands of firings on my trigger and it is still as good as the day I bought it.
If you are worried or having concerns about SSS then buy from one of his distributors. It isn't like he isn't getting paid for the trigger.
Brownells has them in stock right now:
http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=7...TITION_TRIGGER
And Brownells ships quicker than Midway Usa or that has been my experience. I live on the east coast and Brownells orders take about 2-3 days depending on if I order in the am or pm. Midway Usa usually takes 3-5 days.
Dolomite
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Originally Posted by bodywerks
Great. Why?
Well for me it just felt better than the RB trigger that I had previously in the same rifle. It breaks very clean, zero creep and feels good on my finger. I am not any type of expert, but I have shot more than a few rifles in my lifetime. If you own a Savage, I have never felt a better trigger than the SSS.
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Thanks. Wish I had known about brownell's carrying them before I jumped on the riflebasix option...
No matter. I think I'm gonna put an order in with Fred to have the action trued, flute and install a shilen .260 select match barrel and his recoil lug, flute the bolt, etc. And ill just have him install the trigger at that time.
For now ill see how the RB trigger works out...then again, I do have three of these savages so I may go ahead and order one from brownells...
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WAIT A MINUTE!!! AM I MISSING SOMETHING HERE????? Why is the same trigger so much more expensive at brownells?? $119+shipping vs. $97 shipped at SSS???? The convenience is definitely not worth that much - I must be missing something...
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More like robbery...if that's how brownells runs they can kiss my arse. No matter, I found another placethat doesn't price-gouge:
https://www.tacticalworks.com/search...keep_https=yes
Got it for $100 shipped...$3 convenience fee is more like it.
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Brownells isn't like WalMart where everything is made in Chine. They sell mostly USA made goods. That's one thing I do like about SSS they have one price for there product whether your mom and pop store or large corporation like WalMart. With my gunsmithing discount the price is comparable.
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Not sure I get what you mean. So what if brownells sells only USA-made stuff. That justifies the hideous mark-up? Ill be damned if I'm gonna fork over an extra 25% for the same product from them just because I agree with their ideals...price gouging, however, is not an ideal I agree with. Ill be dammed if I'm gonna pad their pockets with MY hard earned $$$!!
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better quit buying clothing 300%+ on it, so they can afford to toss what don't sell
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Originally Posted by bodywerks
Not sure I get what you mean. So what if brownells sells only USA-made stuff. That justifies the hideous mark-up? Ill be damned if I'm gonna fork over an extra 25% for the same product from them just because I agree with their ideals...price gouging, however, is not an ideal I agree with. Ill be dammed if I'm gonna pad their pockets with MY hard earned $$$!!
And this is why the jobs are all overseas and Wal-Mart is the place to shop for so many. God help this country. There is a greed issue with both sellers and purchasers. It will likely take the coming depression to sort these things out for us once again as we do not learn from history.
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FWIW, I think everyone in the US has the right to make a profit. If you dont like it, dont buy it. Capitolism at it's best, but I dont think that the 119 dollars is still that bad of a price. You can look at people buying $50 per 100 bullets. They get 100 shots for there $50. So with in 200 rounds and shipping you trigger is payed for and you got thousands more rounds of life out of it. I understand shopping and getting the best deal you can. But Brownell still has to make a profit to stay open. It is employeeing alot of people and they provide a service that works well. In a pinch I would not hesitate ordering that trigger for $120 to get it here. I order alot of stuff though SSS but I think alot of people can agree that they are not the easiest to order from, just because they are alway on the phone and because they are so popular.
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You could spend more for a lesser trigger if you wish. But by the sounds of it ,it wouldn't make you happy.
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Well I guess since you used up all you cell phone minutes plus cost of your time itself that will make SSS cheaper than Brownells. Since my cell minutes cost $.45 each when there's overage and my hourly rate is over $20 per hour then it doesn't take much for me to buy where ever there's savings. If that's Brownells then so be it!
I've gone the Rifle Basx-2 trigger and in my opinion its a piece of crap!!! I've ordered SSS triggers and the same from Brownells. There's absolutely no comparison between SSS trigger and any of the pack. By far the best in my opinion.
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I've gone the Rifle Basx-2 trigger and in my opinion its a piece of crap!!! I've ordered SSS triggers and the same from Brownells. There's absolutely no comparison between SSS trigger and any of the pack. By far the best in my opinion.
Care to elaborate on this?
I don't have a SSS trigger but that will be the next one I buy. I do have a Rifle Basix SAV-2 trigger and it is an excellent trigger, clean, crisp and repeatable. What is the trouble with yours?
Thanks,
Bob
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Wow, You guys don't see a problem with Brownells marking up this trigger by 25% over what Sharpshooter supply and one of it's other dealers(tacticalworks.com) is charging????
Wow - that's all I can say - wow...
Sorry, but if you have a choice between getting the exact same product at market price, or 25% over market, and you choose to pay the extra 25% then, well.
Tacticalworks.com is located in Colorado - tells me it's an American company. I'm still supporting American companies, and American-made products, and am getting the product at the right price.
I'll take the $25 I saved and buy me a thousand more primers, or a couple 18-packs ;)...
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But, Brownwlls anwsers the phone when you call. That's worth something.
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I like the way the $20s feel - especially the new ones.
My price at Brownells shows up as $97.64 (discount).
And no, I have no problem with anyone charging anything they want for something (this is the USA), but then again I don't choose to call people names for spending their money where and how they want (have no issue with those that choose to waste money buying 18 packs of canned beer instead of cases of bottles or kegs).
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That's fine because its called freedom. Free to do what "you" deem necessary and acceptable. Yes some may consider Brownells charges excessive. When I call they answer the phone within several rings. The order is placed and product arrives two days later. When I call SSS sometimes I get through within a few tries but other times takes days. How much money would I loose in productivity trying too save $25. While you chased all over getting the best deal, I'm already down the road and done several other jobs. The money I've saved in my time, phone charges etc. amounts too a far larger amount than the $25. Additional jobs are done which are paying for that wasted time. So the bottom line is yes you saved $25 by doing what you've done. I've made addition $$$ not worrying about that small detail but rather by utilizing my time more productively. If your so worried about that $25 then don't buy new clothing as another poster commented. Don't take the old beater in for repairs because the parts you get can be bought other places for 50% of what your paying at the repair shop.
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Calling people an idiot for spending their money how they want?
I am all about saving money but claiming others are idiots for spending their money how they want to only proves who the idiot really is. Hope you enjoy your trigger because it is a good one.
Dolomite
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Brownells has to charge more. They have a large staff, a huge web-site loaded with good info, and a big glossy catalog that is still free IIRC. There ain't no free lunches.
RWO
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Do any of you guys even have a clue how big parts companies like Brownells, Midway, etc. work? Here's an example of their typical gestapo tactics...
1. Said company finds a product they want to start carrying.
2. Said company contacts manufacturer and says "we want 100 of these"
3. Manufacturer says "sure, they're $xx.xx each"
4. Said company comes back and says "Oh no, you have to sell them to us for $xx.xx because we need to make 45% on them if we're going to stock them.
5. The manufacturer, thinking he's doing himself a favor, sells his product to them for the price they want and kisses his own profit margin goodbye thinking he'll make it up in volume, but never does so he basically cut his own throat.
So why is the SSS trigger $20 more through Brownell's than through other sources? Pretty much because Fred told them to take their 45% profit margin and shove it...this is the dealer price, take it or leave it. They took it, but they still want their 45% profit so it's $20 more through them.
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And I praise Fred for not giving in to them and selling it for less.....He should, however, sell it to Savageshooters site members at a discount ;)...Just kidding, but worth a shot ;D
The larger companies can get away with charging more cause they know they will most likely have what you need when you order, and when you order multiple items that means alot to a consumer. I dont like Cabelas prices, but somehow I still find a way to spend $100 or more everytime I go in there. This week alone I spent $300 there and never even left my hometown ::).
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Originally Posted by MrFurious
Do any of you guys even have a clue how big parts companies like Brownells, Midway, etc. work? Here's an example of their typical gestapo tactics...
1. Said company finds a product they want to start carrying.
2. Said company contacts manufacturer and says "we want 100 of these"
3. Manufacturer says "sure, they're $xx.xx each"
4. Said company comes back and says "Oh no, you have to sell them to us for $xx.xx because we need to make 45% on them if we're going to stock them.
5. The manufacturer, thinking he's doing himself a favor, sells his product to them for the price they want and kisses his own profit margin goodbye thinking he'll make it up in volume, but never does so he basically cut his own throat.
So why is the SSS trigger $20 more through Brownell's than through other sources? Pretty much because Fred told them to take their 45% profit margin and shove it...this is the dealer price, take it or leave it. They took it, but they still want their 45% profit so it's $20 more through them.
Those are more like Wal-Mart tactics aren't they? ;)
They must have wanted Fred's stuff really bad because there is usually a provision that the manufacturer can't sell the item to anyone else for less than Brownell's sells it for.
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I finally gave in and ordered one from SSS.... it's like Christmas in summer...
-Jake
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If Brownell's has it in stock and SSS doesn't or I'll have to wait until I'm too old to use it, I'll pay the extra $20. Fred has every right to sell them at his price, I don't deny him his profit (Lord knows he's earned it). We have the right to spend an extra $20 for the convenience of getting it quickly.
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You guys are missing the point. I don't care what Brownells wants to charge. And if they were the only other option I may have very well caved.
Fact of the matter is THEY WERE NOT THE ONLY OPTION!!!! tacticalworks.com sells them, too...
I chose the option that got me my trigger at a fair price and you guys reamed me a new one.
Sorry for the harsh remarks earlier, but it seemed that I was being called 'un-American' for not supporting Brownells pricepoint to help them pay for their HUGE staff, and contributing to the detriment of society for purchasing from a company with more competitive pricing. Did that light me up? You bet...
Rant over, I give up...
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Something else to consider is maybe you get thru right away to brownells. But do you or have you gotten the customer service that fred and lisa offer at sss? Doubt it!! If there is a problem it is fixed without questions! I would rather wait a lil extra time for a quality top of the line product than pay extra because u have no patience. Just my 2 cents i have had nothing but good things to say about sss. Put it this way i ordered some things from them asked questions and was offered to have those things finished my way no extra charge. Bet that doesnt and wont happen thru brownells,midway so on.
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Oh and yeah the trigger is worth every bit of what they charge
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It's good that you saved some money going to tactical works. They have less people to employ, dont have a huge catalog to send out. It is good that you ordered from them. You helped some people keep there jobs. But that doesnt take away that there are reasons that Brownells has reasons to mark it up a little more then tactical works. I use there catalog for looking up parts as well as midway. I order most of my stuff though midway. They arent the cheapest, but they are close to the easiest and most consistant. If they dont have it, I go to Brownells and Sinclair Int. They also stock a lot of weird stuff, when I wanted 22-243win, 260AI and 6mm Dasher dies, they were instock at Sinclair. Takes money to stock stuff that some one may never buy.
Just my .02 worth
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Question please... This trigger assembly is listed to fit the long actions and the model 10. How about the model 12 series?
Pete K. ???
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I just got my Rifle basix Sav-2 on my F-class rifle, couldn't be happier and my email was answered promptly with the product shipped quickly to my door. Fantastic trigger, currently set at 5oz. with no creep, very crisp and seems to be well made. If I was going to buy from SSS again, they would need to have an online store. I don't have the time to listen to busy signals all day. They may do great work, but if I can't get a hold of them, my business goes elsewhere. That's just life, and by the sounds of it, it's not hurting them at all. Win Win IMO...
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i might get lucky and have my trigger tomorrow. I like the accutrigger concept, but I have to man instances where the sear slips past the groove on the trigger and jams against the accutrigger blade, causing basically a misfire. For target shooting at the range its no big deal, but in competition or when that ground squirrel finally presents himself, it's quite frustrating.
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I would say YES!! Just installed one on my Model 12 (started life as a 223 but is a 20 Tactical now). For some it seems to be a drop in, though in a fairness I was sick as a dog when I installed mine. Went back and reinstalled to get things adjusted and have to say I am quite happy with it. Still tinkering with it a bit to get that right weight of pull, but that is for me not any issue with the trigger. Looked at the RB Sav-1 and 2, did not want to spend the extra $ for the 2 and the Sav-1 did not seem to offer the light weight of pull I wanted and after reading about the SSS competition trigger felt it was the one for me...now that I have it installed still think so. Only other triggers I have had the chance to 'pull' have been the Shilen trigger on one of their new actions, and a Jewel on a custom BR rifle so not fair to compare to those.
Have mine adjusted pretty low right now, just have not taken it out (in the morning) to see if it is where I want it - NOTE this rifle is not used for anything except target shooting.
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Got both triggers in today. The SSS is definitely better just by the looks of it. Gonna try to get them both installed for range time tomorrow.
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I have never seen one of these triggers for sale in the classifieds if that tells you anything about the quality.
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Why does my "Malewarebytes" anti virus software warn and then stop tacticalworks.com from loading??. It does this also on their Tac-ops link. Malewarebytes must be detecting a tracking cookie or something it deems unsafe. Bottom line is that I can't open either of their web pages.
Got any ideas???
Pete K.
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There is nothing nefarious on their site. Temporarily disable Malwarebytes. It's being 'overly' protective.
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Got my SSS trigger installed, but it was by NO MEANS a drop in fit in my FCP-k:
http://savageshooters.com/SavageForu...c,34406.0.html
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Web sites that use Activ-X type of software causes my computer too dump anything from them into the Junk E-Mail folder. My server also has anti-virus software too protect itself and its customers. It will also quarantine downloads from sites using the same software.
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Too much protection, makes your computer almost unuseable to you.
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Just ordered from Tactical Works. Thanks for the link.
MEC
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I'm about to order another myself, as soon as I find out if rifle basix will let me return their trigger to them...I was unimpressed with it compared to the SSS, to say the least.
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Last Tuesday I ordered a Competition Trigger from SSS and received and installed it today, Thursday. It is everything plus a lot more. I was always impressed with the Savage Accu-trigger and was able to modify it and get it down to 1.5 lbs. but it was very inconsistent with a +/- .4 oz. The SSS trigger is very crisp and very consistent. I am now ready to upgrade my other Savages.
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Agreed. Returned my riflebasix POS and ordered a second SSS trigger. I have the first one breaking crisp @ about 14.5 ounces - have cycled and slammed the bolt shut numerous times and the SSS never slipped - real confidence builder. The riflebasix would not hold a pull weight setting and would slam-fire if you cycled the bolt too fast.
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I don't waste my time trying to deal with SSS.... I have 4 of the Competition triggers all from www.tacticalworks.com, the first 2 are great, the last 2 both have issues, if you adjust the overtravel to a decent level, the sear cam gets hung up and will not reset. SSS needs to tighten up on their QC. Tactical works is Great to deal with, Fair prices and fast shipping. Even with the issues, the SSS trigger is still the best on the market.