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    Well put.
    The Dunning-Kruger effect is alive and well.

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    Thank you Gentlemen. Thank you very much. Please understand.........when you talk about a "protractor," you know what that is...how to use it. An English major? I know it's a measuring device. That's it. Specifics??? Angular adjustments? Another way to measure...right?

    What I AM going to do is read / seriously study what you both said. I am. Shooting tomorrow. FFP / MIL. Applying what you said.

    Muchos Gracious.

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    As stated above these are all just different ways of measuring an angle.

    MIL has become popular due to the military use of the measurement. Stems from artillery where they used mil angle to adjust the elevation and azimuth of the gun. The spotters gave adjustments in mils so all the military binoculars and scope sights were marked in mils.

    If have a scope marked in mils then just ask the spotter to adjust in mils. Same for MOA.

    Just don't get a scope with turret adjustments in mil and reticle in MOA. It gets confusing. :)

    I like MOA for shooting rifle just because most targets are marked in MOA or inches and it is a familar measurement for me. And, yes, I used mils for almost 20 years in the Army. Then I started 'shooting' lasers and we used micro-radians :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlie b View Post
    As stated above these are all just different ways of measuring an angle.

    MIL has become popular due to the military use of the measurement. Stems from artillery where they used mil angle to adjust the elevation and azimuth of the gun. The spotters gave adjustments in mils so all the military binoculars and scope sights were marked in mils.

    If have a scope marked in mils then just ask the spotter to adjust in mils. Same for MOA.

    Just don't get a scope with turret adjustments in mil and reticle in MOA. It gets confusing. :)

    I like MOA for shooting rifle just because most targets are marked in MOA or inches and it is a familar measurement for me. And, yes, I used mils for almost 20 years in the Army. Then I started 'shooting' lasers and we used micro-radians :)
    Thank you Charlie.

    Here's my FWIW decision...

    My 30-06 has long carried a plain MOA SFP scope with a simple crosshair. Nothing fancy but works. For HUNTING, rifle / scope are under MOA accurate and dependable. Proven. Something to be said for that. Shooting this afternoon, I've decided to leave it like it is. I'm good / confident to 400+/- ethical yards.

    The 6.5 rifle carries the S3 FFP MIL. For TARGET work, this will be my rifle. I'm deep into learning MIL basics and enjoying the challenges.

    Thank you for all your help.

    Cheers.

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    Go to YouTube and search for Ryan Cleckner video called "understanding mils". It should answer your questions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whynot View Post
    Go to YouTube and search for Ryan Cleckner video called "understanding mils". It should answer your questions.
    Thank you very much. Will do.

    Cheers.

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    I forgot about that vid. Whynot sent you on a good mission.
    The Dunning-Kruger effect is alive and well.

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