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    6.5 Creed w/ 120 gr ELDM Match?


    No Target - a hunting bullet for Ferals ONLY?? Yes? No? Good? Bad? Ugly?

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    You don't mention the rifle model. I have a Axis in 6.5 Creedmoor bought 6 years ago and the first ammo I used in it was 120 grain Winchesters. It shot pretty well, about 1.5 MOA groups at 100 yards. I was able to do slightly better the next range day, but nothing to write home about. Next I worked with some Hornady 140 grain ELD rounds, my groups dropped down to .5 MOA at 100 yards. I have read on another site of folks using 120 grain ELDM's and getting as good accuracy and better, I tried with mine and it wouldn't. IMHO, each gun has a round it prefers, if I were you I would try it and see if the accuracy works for you. Your rifle may prefer the 120 grain ELDM rounds much more.

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    I don't hunt with mine so I use the 140ELDM's.

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    You might try Sierra 130 gr Game Changer hunting bullets. They shoot as well as the Sierra 130 Tipped Match King bullets in my 6.5mm CMs.
    Bullet performance often depends on the particular barrel you have.
    I have multiple Sierra rifles with similar length barrels and one shoots light bullets best and the other shoots heavier bullets best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taidog1 View Post
    No Target - a hunting bullet for Ferals ONLY?? Yes? No? Good? Bad? Ugly?

    TIA
    For feral pigs, it would not be a good choice. Maybe a ELD-X, but Hornady does not make one
    that light. They do have a ELD-X in 143gr which would be you better choice. Personally, I choose
    a bullet for ferals more inline with expanding soft points or a bullet like the Sierra 130 gr. Game King.
    Keeping my bad Karma intact since 1952

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuj' View Post
    For feral pigs, it would not be a good choice. Maybe a ELD-X, but Hornady does not make one
    that light. They do have a ELD-X in 143gr which would be you better choice. Personally, I choose
    a bullet for ferals more inline with expanding soft points or a bullet like the Sierra 130 gr. Game King.
    Can't go wrong with a game king.
    The Dunning-Kruger effect is alive and well.

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    Hunting bullets BAD!

    Most don't realize that wild hogs; especially boars, have a very thick gristle area protecting the major organs. That gristle area or "sheath" rest just under the skin and above the shoulder bone. Its is what allows boars to fight with little major organ damage when the cutter teeth tear in. Often on big boars that sheath is up to a 3/8th-1/2 inch think gristle. Taxidermist hate it and only a few will do a full body mount. Many a bow hunter loose an arrow as it likes shooting a tree.

    In summary here is what your dealing with. A 3/8-1/2 inch thick hide (even thicker if its an old boar that has scarring where you bullet strikes. ), up to a 3/8-1/2" thick sheath (gristle), and than shoulder bone before you even get into the organ cavity.

    So what happens it is a soft point hits it and it expands to quickly losses energy and doesn't penetrate the scapula of shoulder bone.The same with a direct on head shot. Heck on the farm I have shot a 22 long rifle at 20 feet and not drop a 220 pounder for a direct on headshot.

    The best place to shoot a hog is below the ear and one inch behind the eye, where that jaw hinge area is. At that point a 55 grain 22 caliber will drop one at 100 yards promptly.

    Bottomline you want a bullet branded FMJ. Like a Seller and Beloit 140 grain. Remember Hornady and Seirra market for game bullets for a huge audience of thin skinned elk, deer, and antelope hunters etc. AKA: quick expanders that provide optimal hydro static shock.

    I speak to this from the 37 Bores I have shot in my life. On my brother in laws property in Florida hundreds were taken. Most of which were Piny Ridge Rooters mixed with Russian strains.

    I will also tell you if this is a first time hunt or you have been on few. If you hear clicking back off. Somewhere there is a boar thats close and its getting ready to come after you. That clicking sound is the bottom teeth or cutters getting sharpened by rubbing them against the uppers or "sharpeners". Trust me if you don't move fast they will cut your calves and then turn on you when your down. Usually you cannot move fast enough to avoid a strike normally.

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    Thank you Gentlemen...much appreciated. Will definitely follow as recommended. I fully realize each bullet weight / construction has its advantages / disadvantages. Just trying to simplify everything...get a little closer to 1 bullet "weight" for hunting and target.

    Cheers!!

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